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"Infants" - Heaven or Hell?

 
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Have Christians been looking at this the wrong way?

If the soul is not affected by physical death (brain dead), then I can conclude that the soul is not affected by a blow to the head (brain damaged), then I believe it is safe to conclude that the soul would not be affected by an underdeveloped brain (infant).

The argument has to do with the current state of the brain (infantile, damaged, dead) and how that relates to and affects the soul. If I am correct on my first 2 points (damage and death), then what would prevent me from concluding one step further (infants brain)?

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Have Christians been looking at this the wrong way?

If the soul is not affected by physical death (brain dead), then I can conclude that the soul is not affected by a blow to the head (brain damaged), then I believe it is safe to conclude that the soul would not be affected by an underdeveloped brain (infant).

The argument has to do with the current state of the brain (infantile, damaged, dead) and how that relates to and affects the soul. If I am correct on my first 2 points (damage and death), then what would prevent me from concluding one step further (infants brain)?

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Have Christians been looking at this the wrong way?

If the soul is not affected by physical death (brain dead), then I can conclude that the soul is not affected by a blow to the head (brain damaged), then I believe it is safe to conclude that the soul would not be affected by an underdeveloped brain (infant).

The argument has to do with the current state of the brain (infantile, damaged, dead) and how that relates to and affects the soul. If I am correct on my first 2 points (damage and death), then what would prevent me from concluding one step further (infants brain)?

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The unbaptized who die before the age of reason (7-8) have no guilt of personal sin, but they carry the stain of Original Sin, and so they go to Limbo - a place of perfect, natural happiness but they do not enjoy the Beatific Vision.

The baptized who die before the age of reason go to Heaven where they enjoy the Beatific Vision.

The unbaptized who die after the age of reason in a state of mortal sin go to hell, due to the punishment for Original Sin.
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Have Christians been looking at this the wrong way?

If the soul is not affected by physical death (brain dead), then I can conclude that the soul is not affected by a blow to the head (brain damaged), then I believe it is safe to conclude that the soul would not be affected by an underdeveloped brain (infant).

The argument has to do with the current state of the brain (infantile, damaged, dead) and how that relates to and affects the soul. If I am correct on my first 2 points (damage and death), then what would prevent me from concluding one step further (infants brain)?

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You must reach the age of accountability first,,
no children will be found in hell
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the Lord specified conditions for baptism:

"All those who humble themselves before God, and desire to be baptized, and come forth with broken hearts and contrite spirits, and witness before the church that they have truly repented of all their sins, and are willing to take upon them the name of Jesus Christ, having a determination to serve him to the end, and truly manifest by their works that they have received of the Spirit of Christ unto the remission of their sins, shall be received by baptism into his church." (D&C 20:37.)"

These conditions," wrote Elder James E. Talmage in The Articles of Faith, "exclude all who have not arrived at the age of discretion and accountability; and by direct commandment the Lord has forbidden the Church to receive any who have not attained to such age. (See D&C 20:71.)

"By revelation the Lord had designated eight years as the age at which children may be properly baptized into the Church; and parents are required to prepare their children for the ordinances of the Church by teaching them the doctrines of faith, repentance, baptism, and the laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost. Failure in this requirement is accounted by the Lord as a sin resting upon the heads of the parents. (See D&C 68:25-27.)"

Elder Talmage emphasized, "The Latter-day Saints are opposed to the practice of infant baptism, which indeed they believe to be a sacrilege. No one having faith in the word of God can look upon the child as culpably wicked; such an innocent being needs no initiation into the fold, for he has never strayed therefrom; he needs no remission of sins for he has committed no sin; and should he die before he has become contaminated by the sins of earth he will be received without baptism into the paradise of God." - [link to www.ldschurchnews.com]

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Have Christians been looking at this the wrong way?

If the soul is not affected by physical death (brain dead), then I can conclude that the soul is not affected by a blow to the head (brain damaged), then I believe it is safe to conclude that the soul would not be affected by an underdeveloped brain (infant).

The argument has to do with the current state of the brain (infantile, damaged, dead) and how that relates to and affects the soul. If I am correct on my first 2 points (damage and death), then what would prevent me from concluding one step further (infants brain)?

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Have Christians been looking at this the wrong way?

If the soul is not affected by physical death (brain dead), then I can conclude that the soul is not affected by a blow to the head (brain damaged), then I believe it is safe to conclude that the soul would not be affected by an underdeveloped brain (infant).

The argument has to do with the current state of the brain (infantile, damaged, dead) and how that relates to and affects the soul. If I am correct on my first 2 points (damage and death), then what would prevent me from concluding one step further (infants brain)?

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reincarnation. reincarnation proof is all around you... the wheels of karma balances everything out... everything is balanced... everything just IS... if YOU want thigns to change- BE that change- if not- u better smile n go with thhe flow of the world..
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Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God Who gave it. -Ecclesiastes 12.6-7



All return to God.

The parable of Lazarus and the rich man (Luke 16) clarifies that there is a gulf separating souls, with the accepted in Abraham's bosom (Lazarus) and the estranged (rich man) on the far side because of his evil actions on earth. We are judged according to our lives here.

This is a matter of common sense. What could an infant possibly do in this world to warrant a separation from God upon death of the flesh?

I believe they are the souls too good for this world, but they must pass through the matrix…be born of water…to be saved.

Additionally, I believe that all souls are the same age ~ ancient.
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If that was true then why would the age of the physical body it inhabits matter?





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