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God Shall Supply Your 'Need'. Predestination.

 
Aenon
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- Matthew 11:15
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Would a loving God really damn most of His children to endless torment? duh

Other passages cited in support of the concept of a limited atonement are John 17:9 (where Jesus prayed for those given to him, not for the entire world) and Acts 20:28 (Christ purchased the Church, not all people). The narrow interpretation given such passages is contradicted by other New Testament writings. Peter wrote that God is "not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance" (2 Peter 3:9). Paul wrote that "our Saviour...will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth" (1 Timothy 2:3-4). Like Alma 9:17 (cited above), this suggests that salvation is available to all, though not all take advantage of Christ's atonement. Paul also wrote that "the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world" (Titus 2:11-12).

John the Baptist called Christ "the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world" (John 1:29), while the apostle John wrote that "he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world" (1 John 2:2).5 John also wrote that "God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved" (John 3:16-17). The apostle Paul told the Corinthians, "For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again" (2 Corinthians 5:14-15). In verse 18, he noted that Christians are reconciled to God through Christ, while in verse 20, he admonished, "be ye reconciled to God," clearly showing that we must do something to take advantage of this reconciliation. In an earlier epistle to the Corinthian saints, Paul noted that one aspect of the atonement of Christ provides a resurrection for all men:

For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. (1 Corinthians 15:21-24)

Latter-day Saints believe that Christ's atonement overcame temporal (physical) death for all men, thus providing a resurrection for everyone, but that he provided salvation from spiritual death only for young children and for adults who choose to follow him (D&C 29:41-50). This view accommodates New Testament teachings about salvation for all or for the few, and it corresponds to Jesus' teaching about a universal resurrection: - [link to www.fairlds.org]


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Would a loving God really damn most of His children to endless torment? duh
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No, He won't. None of God's children will end up in Hell; all of Satan's children will, however.

Latter-day Saints believe that..
 Quoting: MagiChristmas 3*8**


Black people are cursed. 'Nuf said, freak.
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Would a loving God really damn most of His children to endless torment? :duh:

No, He won't. None of God's children will end up in Hell; all of Satan's children will, however.


Latter-day Saints believe that..


Black people are cursed. 'Nuf said, freak.
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Wow.
Shall god reward thee withdst a Voodoo Cursethed upon thou.
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Would a loving God really damn most of His children to endless torment? duh

No, He won't. None of God's children will end up in Hell; all of Satan's children will, however.


Latter-day Saints believe that..


Black people are cursed. 'Nuf said, freak.
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See you tripped right over a simple stumbling stone and fell right on your face. chuckle

Wow the devil has children, nope fraid not, he blew his chance to even be born, much like many will fail to accept the true gospel because their head is in the sand or they fell on their face, like you.

Much like satan limited his chance to progress, you apparently will do likewise?

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He hasnt supplied my need .. gees whats going on?
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He hasnt supplied my need .. gees whats going on?
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I've been waiting a while myself too
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How will a believer cope with the utter disappointment of discovering their god does not exist ?
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The Great Multitude in White Robes

9After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. 10And they cried out in a loud voice:

“Salvation belongs to our God,

who sits on the throne,

and to the Lamb.”
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