Christians might find this interesting: Strange things happened in the Temple at Jerusalem after Jesus died

Prophecy fullfilled?

Zacharia 12
10 I, the Lord, will make the descendants of David and the people of Jerusalem feel deep sorrow and pray when they see the one they pierced with a spear. They will mourn and weep for him, as parents weep over the death of their only child or their first-born.

Last Edited by Haile Menelik on 11/02/2010 08:47 PM

All the descendants of David, House Of Israel, wherever they are.. (Talmudic Jews) should really repent before this prophecy might come true...

Zacharia 12
10 I, the Lord, will make the descendants of David and the people of Jerusalem feel deep sorrow and pray when they see the one they pierced with a spear. They will mourn and weep for him, as parents weep over the death of their only child or their first-born.

11 In that day there will be a great mourning in Jerusalem, like the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.

12 Everyone of each family in the land will mourn, and the men will mourn separately from the women. This includes those from the family of David, and the families of Nathan,

13 the family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of the Shimeites apart, and their wives apart;

14 all the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.

Zacharia 13
1 “When that time comes,” says the Lord Almighty, “a fountain will be opened to purify the descendants of David and the people of Jerusalem from their sin and idolatry.

That hasn't happened yet has it?

No not yet, but it will happen soon.

Revelation 1
7 Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, including those who pierced him. All the tribes of the earth will mourn over him. Even so, Amen.

We just discovered something interesting in Matthew 27:52-53 recently that we hadn't seen before.

After Jesus breathed His last on the cross and "yielded up the Ghost", notice what the following verses say.

"And the graves were opened and many bodies of saints which slept arose, and came out of the graves after His resurrection, and went into the Holy city and appeared to many."



Did you ever notice that? WOW!

The link in the first post is an outdated version. Here is the original page:

[link to www.windowview.org]

You can see that this is what they originally wrote:

"But for forty years in a row, beginning in 30 CE, the High Priest always picked the black stone! The odds against this happening are astronomical (2 to the 40th power). In other words, the chances of this occurring are 1 in approximately 5,479,548,800 — or about 5.5 billion to one!"

But they didn't do the calculation correctly. 2 to the 40th power is 1,099,511,627,776, which is about 200 times bigger than the original number they came up with.

Yep, it was a pretty wild time when Jesus died.

From what I have read this sounds like an earthquake.

Mat 27:52 tells us And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

I don't know if these they were disturbed and brought to the surface because of the earthquake or if this is supposed to be literally translated as dead men walking.

Interestingly the apocryphal Gospel of Nicodemus goes into further detail and relates the story of two of these "arisen" saints that were the sons of a priest. Everyone had seen them die. They are separated from each other to give their accounts so they can be compared. After three days they go back. The story they relate is further detail of Jesus descent into Hell and breaking down the gates. Upon the events that have transpired and comparing the two brothers accounts many of the priesthood become repentant and realize what they have done. Another strange factor worth mentioning is that there are said to be not one but three rulers of Hell.

[link to www.petahtikvah.com]

JOSEPHUS' RECORD OF THE STRANGE LIGHT

Flavius Josephus writes in his Wars of the Jews: "..... when the great crowds of people were come (prior to) to the Feast of Unleavened Bread, on the eighth day of the month Xanthicus (Nisan), and at the ninth hour of the night, so great a light shone round the altar and the holy house, that it appeared to be bright day-time; which light lasted for half and hour. This light seemed to be a good sign to the unskillful, but was so interpreted by the sacred scribes as to prepare those events that followed immediately upon it.

“At the same festival also, a heifer, as she was being led by the high priest to be sacrificed, brought forth a lamb in the midst of the temple.

“Moreover, the eastern gate of the inner, [court of the temple,] which was of brass, and vastly heavy, and had been with difficulty shut by twenty men, and rested upon a basis armed with iron, and had bolts fastened very deep into the firm floor, which was there made of one entire stone, was seen to be opened of its own accord about the sixth hour of the night. Now, those that kept watch in the temple came thereupon running to the captain of the temple, and told him of it; who then came up thither, and not without great difficulty was able to shut the gate again.

“This also appeared to the vulgar to be a very happy prodigy, as if God did thereby open them the gate of happiness. But the men of learning understood it, that the security of their holy house was dissolved of its own accord, and that the gate was opened for the advantage of their enemies. So these publicly declared, that this signal foreshadowed the DESOLATION that was coming upon them" (IV,5,3).

Our Rabbis taught: During the last forty years before the destruction of the Temple the lot [‘For the Lord’] did not come up in the right hand; nor did the crimson-coloured strap become white; nor did the westernmost light shine; and the doors of the Hekal would open by themselves, until R. Johanan b. Zakkai rebuked them, saying: Hekal, Hekal, why wilt thou be the alarmer thyself?5 I know about thee that thou wilt be destroyed, for Zechariah ben Ido has already prophesied concerning thee:6 Open thy doors, O Lebanon, that the fire may devour thy cedars.7

[link to www.yashanet.com]

Were these signs from God telling people that the Temple was now closed?

I think I have a pretty good grip on who ONE of the rulers of hell is. Got any ideas who the other two are?

Really doesn't matter, I guess. I don't plan on meeting them personally as I profess Jesus as my Savior and Lord.

Just curious, though. Do you suppose that satan is trying to impersonate the "Trinity" (Father, Son, Holy Ghost) by making a "trinity" in hell?

"According to the research of Peter Michas, the Tree of Life in the Garden of Eden was an almond tree, of which a branch of that tree became the rod which the future High Priest of Israel, Aaron, used. This “rod” was in the inheritance of Adam and passed down through the ages from Adam to Abraham to King David, who planted it on the Mount of Olives. Here “outside the camp” near the site of the sacrificial site of the Red Heifer, Yehoshua was executed."

[link to www.biblesearchers.com]

Is it any wonder also that many of these scholars believe that the tree that Yehoshua was hanged on was actually an almond tree. The textual study suggests that Aaron’s cane that was initially placed in the Ark of the Covenant, was taken out during the era of Solomon’s Temple after it miraculously flowered and rooted. This growing almond tree was planted on the Mount of Olives. About a thousand years later, Jesus, the “Light of the world”, was hung on this Almond tree, called the Tree of Light, which was near the Miphkad altar where the ashes of the Red Heifer were collected.

[link to www.biblesearchers.com]

And Pilate posted a sign over him that read, “Jesus of Nazareth,the King of the Jews.”
(John 19:19)

This web pages says that in Hebrew the sign read "Yehoshua Hanavari Vemelech HaYahudim".

[link to www.biblesearchers.com]

It says that the priest objected, because the initial letters spell out YHVH.

They were easy to interpret as long as people continued to believe to the teachings of Christ that Jerusalem was going to be encompassed with armies and be demolished. Josephus records a sign that was so well known that most people in Judaea were witnesses to it. He said:

"Besides these [signs mentioned earlier], a few days after that feast [of Unleavened Bread], on the one and twentieth day of the month Artemisius [Jyar], a certain prodigious and incredible phenomenon appeared: I suppose the account of it would seem to be a fable, were it not related by those that saw it, and were not the events that followed it of so considerable a nature as to deserve such signals; for, before sun-setting, chariots and troops of soldiers in their armor were seen running about among the clouds, and surrounding of cities" (War VI.5,3).

This is precisely what Jesus said would occur. He told the Jews that they would in the future be able "to see" (that is, to observe with their eyes) Jerusalem compassed with armies. When they would "see" such things, that was the time to flee because the desolation of Jerusalem was very near (Luke 21:20).


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But that did not end the signs that God gave to the Jews before the war began in late A.D.66. Notice one other important sign that Josephus (an eyewitness) mentioned. It is significant!

"Moreover, at that feast which we call Pentecost, as the priests were going by night into the inner [court of the Temple,] as their custom was, to perform their sacred ministrations, they said that, in the first place, they felt a quaking, and heard a great noise, and after that they heard a sound as of a great multitude, saying, ‘Let us remove hence.’"

Exactly 36 years before, on this exact day of Pentecost, the Christian community received the Holy Spirit in Jerusalem at the Temple as recorded in Acts chapter two. And now, 36 years later (precisely 12 times 3 years later), a sign to flee Jerusalem and the Temple was the final one that God gave to the Jewish people to depart and save their lives. In effect, with the sign that stated: "Let us remove hence," this was tantamount to saying: God was abandoning His Holy House (the Temple) and also the City of Jerusalem that had been His capital for all affairs on earth. This was the final sign to flee.

[link to www.askelm.com]

OMG...how has this not become public?

Keep in mind that it is an apocryphal book.

Great thread.

Except Jesus didn't die, he left the grave and went to India and died an old man well after 100 years of age

No the graves did not open. This refers to a resurrection at that time. Old dead bodies, in fact NO bodies go to the mansion worlds of the beginning heaven realm. They can't survive there, you are given a new one. There are general resurrections periodically and one of those was after the crucifixion. Jesus did not die by the way.

There is another resurrection coming shortly, the one for the end of an age. God is not understood. Graves to not open.

How do you know Jesus didn't die?

Interesting thread!

The odd thing is, I had just finished reading Zacharia before clicking on it....

It's on the web now!!! Spread it around!

A heifer is a cow!! How can it have a lamb, which is a baby sheep?

212,000 Messianic Jews in Israel today.Moral Yeshuah believing Jews in Israel today than in during the Apostolic Jerusalem Era.

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A group of Nazarenes did just that! After Jesus fulfilled the prophecy and after Stephen was martyred, ending the 70th week, Jerusalem was destroyed by the Roman prince.

"The Nazarene sect used in the Book of Acts clearly referred to both Jewish and Gentile followers of Jesus' Apostles......they accepted the virgin birth of Jesus.

The Nazarenes were originally Jewish converts of the Apostles who fled Jerusalem because of Jesus' warning of its coming siege. They fled to Pella, Peraea (which is northeast of Jerusalem), and eventually spread outwards to Beroea and Bashanitis, where they permanently settled."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Interesting that the fathers of the Catholic religion(Origen in particular) admit that the Nazarenes are Matthew's "Home Church" but then go about saying they are heretics for adhering to what Matthew taught them

What a messed up convoluted thing these Greeks and Romans made of "The Way" and what arrogance to infer that they knew better than the Apostles themselves.

some interesting info thanks op

yes the veil over the holy of holies was rent

we can boldly approach the throne of grace today, as believers, with full assurance of faith -- entering the holy of holies and bringing our petitions to God. we do not have because we do not ask

signs follow believers ;-)

simple childlike faith -- without doubting. this is pleasing to God. and we bring a sacrifice of praise

the book of Hebrews explains old covenant pictures of the new covenant

love peace and joy

rb