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Rex Khristos
(OP) User ID: 908143  United States10/26/2010 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | he was after all responding to my question... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1143179Isn't he the greatest? All the worlds a stage, and this medium even more so, but do look for the truth amongst the drama and for the you within the other. I'm only doing this because the alternative is boring ;) That and true contact with Truth results in unmrestrainable joy...heaven is meant to be shared =) "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
| TXGal4Truth
User ID: 1013398 United States10/26/2010 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem is that too many people give WAYYYY too much credit to the CREATION, rather than to the creator. So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16 *********************************** You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed. :tgdmwt: |
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| Rex Khristos
(OP) User ID: 908143 United States10/26/2010 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Masks are a hard thing to get rid of. Especially when you don't know you're wearing one... Quoting: DanfromtheHillsOr why you might be wearing it. Hence all the self reflection I very much want to get beyond, but ones lens own must be polished and flawless to see clearly. The whole of the point is to see clearly and do rightly. "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1143207 United States10/26/2010 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sadly, the gnostic teachings are qualifiable as a religion, Quoting: kalamity kooleven more sadly, the members usually think they are free of the dogmas and restrictions that they see in acknowledged religions... who is the more deceived? It all leads back to one thing, if not based on truth, the infant-mother bond and the super strong desire to return to that state of infantile bliss. I'd rather be grown up and creating bliss, than a baby again and wallowing in it with the accompanying infantile narcissism. |
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| Khalen
User ID: 1085869  Canada10/26/2010 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem is that too many people give WAYYYY too much credit to the CREATION, rather than to the creator. Quoting: TXGal4TruthIt is perhaps that too many people create a separation between the two in the first place. As his vision slowly cleared, the traveler came to the startling realization that he had been sitting by the side of the road, repeatedly hitting himself in the head with his walking staff. He had in fact been doing this for a quarter of a century. Shaking his head at his own folly, he dusted himself off, set his gaze upon the road up the mountain and once more set off upon his journey. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1143159 United States10/26/2010 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem is that too many people give WAYYYY too much credit to the CREATION, rather than to the creator. Quoting: KhalenIt is perhaps that too many people create a separation between the two in the first place. the creator has many faces. people get stuck in just seeing one of them. and the same thing applies to the creation too. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1143207 United States10/26/2010 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The whole of the point is to see clearly and do rightly. Quoting: Rex Khristosreally, that's the whole point, to see clearly and do rightly? and who is to choose what is right and wrong, you? of course you, you should look up the term elitism and try to see clearly how it applies in this situation. I doubt you will, though. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1143159 United States10/26/2010 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The whole of the point is to see clearly and do rightly. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1143207really, that's the whole point, to see clearly and do rightly? and who is to choose what is right and wrong, you? of course you, you should look up the term elitism and try to see clearly how it applies in this situation. I doubt you will, though. ye know, each and every one of us has to figure out what is right and what is clear. i do, ye do - all of us. and just because he says it doesn't mean ye can use his answer. |
| Rex Khristos
(OP) User ID: 908143 United States10/26/2010 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | really, that's the whole point, to see clearly and do rightly? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1143207and who is to choose what is right and wrong, you? of course you, you should look up the term elitism and try to see clearly how it applies in this situation. I doubt you will, though. Apparently your missing the point of all the work to free oneself of self created delusion, to hold the reigns of the psyche and see Reality for the first time. That is the source of Rightness because it is a Grand Company of consciousnesses. See my signature. Last Edited by Apotheosis Rex Khristos on 10/26/2010 10:24 PM "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
| Rex Khristos
(OP) User ID: 908143 United States10/26/2010 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the creator has many faces. people get stuck in just seeing one of them. and the same thing applies to the creation too. Quoting: RossIt may be in the Creator's plan to supply as many objectifications of the Deity that we are satisfied with, until we finally reject the subject/object paradigm and demand the sharing of Being. Last Edited by Apotheosis Rex Khristos on 10/26/2010 10:28 PM "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
| Rex Khristos
(OP) User ID: 908143 United States10/26/2010 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.truthcontest.com] "If you say that the abode of the Gods is in the sky, the birds will arrive there before you. If you say it is in the sea, the fish will arrive there before you. Know that the heavenly realm is both inside you and outside you, and you will know that which is outside by that which is inside. When you have found the Light within yourselves, you will know as you are known. Then you will know that you are the children of the Living Parents and that your destiny is to be as they are. The person who knows not himself, is poor in Spirit, for he is his own poverty." "Learn the meaning of the creation which surrounds you, and you will perceive the mysteries hidden from your sight, for Eternal Truth is recorded on all that exists. I tell you the truth when I say that there is nothing hidden which will not be revealed to the person who can read the creation of the Eloheim." "The shadows of this world are perceived by mortals, and they think they know Truth, but the Reality which casts the shadows is hidden from them, and they do not perceive the Light. I tell you the truth when I say that only when you perceive shadows as shadows, and search the Light, will you perceive the Reality which is God." "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
| Khalen
User ID: 1085869 Canada10/26/2010 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the creator has many faces. people get stuck in just seeing one of them. and the same thing applies to the creation too. Quoting: Rex KhristosIt may be in the Creator's plan to supply as many objectifications of the Deity that we are satisfied with, until we finally reject the subject/object paradigm and demand the sharing of Being. If I may point out, that in this phrase you yourself are creating an objectification. It would better serve us I feel, in advancing our understanding of such matters, that we stop attempting to convey eternal and infinite cosmic principles within the boundary's and limitations of anthropomorphic symbolism and humanistic paradigms. A difficult task to be certain, but as history has shown, such limitations have thus far only led to misunderstanding and confusion. As his vision slowly cleared, the traveler came to the startling realization that he had been sitting by the side of the road, repeatedly hitting himself in the head with his walking staff. He had in fact been doing this for a quarter of a century. Shaking his head at his own folly, he dusted himself off, set his gaze upon the road up the mountain and once more set off upon his journey. |
| kalamity kool
User ID: 1139835  Australia10/26/2010 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sadly, the gnostic teachings are qualifiable as a religion, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1143207even more sadly, the members usually think they are free of the dogmas and restrictions that they see in acknowledged religions... who is the more deceived? It all leads back to one thing, if not based on truth, the infant-mother bond and the super strong desire to return to that state of infantile bliss. I'd rather be grown up and creating bliss, than a baby again and wallowing in it with the accompanying infantile narcissism. It's a mistake to assume people join religions to hide from the truth. No-one knows the full truth, but whatever path you follow, the true parts will eventually meet up, and be essentially the same as the true parts of another path... reality is the truth and truth is reality. |
| ToyTV
User ID: 727691 United States10/26/2010 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sadly, the gnostic teachings are qualifiable as a religion, Quoting: kalamity kooleven more sadly, the members usually think they are free of the dogmas and restrictions that they see in acknowledged religions... who is the more deceived? ^^^^THIS! The OP is straight Gnostic philosophy...and is very anti-Christ. OP, you are deceived. Last Edited by ToyTV on 10/26/2010 11:14 PM |
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| Rex Khristos
(OP) User ID: 908143 United States10/26/2010 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The OP is straight Gnostic philosophy...and is very anti-Christ. Quoting: ToyTVOP, you are deceived. How is this any different from what I am saying? 2 Corinthians 10:5 We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
| TXGal4Truth
User ID: 1013398 United States10/26/2010 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The OP is straight Gnostic philosophy...and is very anti-Christ. Quoting: Rex KhristosOP, you are deceived. How is this any different from what I am saying? 2 Corinthians 10:5 We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. Misunderstanding. So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16 *********************************** You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed. :tgdmwt: |
| Rex Khristos
(OP) User ID: 908143 United States10/26/2010 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How is this any different from what I am saying? Quoting: TXGal4Truth2 Corinthians 10:5 We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. Misunderstanding. I would love to hear your opinion. Last Edited by Apotheosis Rex Khristos on 10/26/2010 11:48 PM "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
| AWhereness
(OP) User ID: 908143 United States10/26/2010 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | VERY interesting information indeed...and it's almost painful at the same time to see so many closed minds... Quoting: ArunaLunaOUCH True that, Luna. How immense the universe with new pictures...  When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained. Mark Twain |
| ToyTV
User ID: 727691 United States10/27/2010 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The OP is straight Gnostic philosophy...and is very anti-Christ. Quoting: Rex KhristosOP, you are deceived. How is this any different from what I am saying? 2 Corinthians 10:5 We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. The knowledge you are speaking of is straight from The Garden...it is the knowledge of Satan...not of YHWH (who is the true creator of all things). The Gnostic Philosophy turns the story around (also why Occult ways and symbols are often depicted as upside down or backwards). YHWH is viewed as the evil one who ensnares souls into physical bodies...and that Satan is the saviour because he 'enlightens' with 'secret knowledge,' and rebels against YHWH. To free you from YHWH's imprisonment. You are speaking of Mystery Religion, Gnostic, Satanic, Esoteric Knowledge...which is forbidden by YHWH. You are speaking of knowledge and wisdom through 'SELF.' The Knowledge of God...as you say...is through Christ, and is not secret...it rather, is simple and without burden: 1. Love Adonai your Elohim with all your heart, mind, and soul. (by denying the very thing you are propagating, and following His Law instead. Stop Sinning...Sin is Transgression of the Law. Study His Law...and follow it the best you can). Messiah (Christ) will pick up your shortcomings...as they will certainly be numerous. 2. Love thy Neighbor as yourself. You are preaching a Satanic Doctrine...and you don't even know it. Let me Guess, a list of your favorite movies would be: The Matrix V For Vendetta Fight Club Dark City etc... (Insert any other Gnostic Propaganda Movie Here) Last Edited by ToyTV on 10/27/2010 12:14 AM |
| Rex Khristos
(OP) User ID: 908143 United States10/27/2010 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The knowledge you are speaking of is straight from The Garden...it is the knowledge of Satan...not of YHWH (who is the true creator of all things). The Gnostic Philosophy turns the story around (also why Occult ways and symbols are often depicted as upside down or backwards). YHWH is viewed as the evil one who ensnares souls into physical bodies...and that Satan is the saviour because he 'enlightens' with 'secret knowledge,' and rebels against YHWH. Quoting: ToyTVAnd the "knowledge of the garden" is the watered down version of a story passed down 6000 years ago to a guy who wrote it down (Moses, Genesis and old testiment) 2500 years later...and now it's 3500 years later than that you sure you have the Full Clear story? I don't think so You are speaking of Mystery Religion, Gnostic, Satanic, Esoteric Knowledge...which is forbidden by YHWH. Quoting: ToyTVDid you know YHWH was part of a divine couple in the old Hebreic culture? Look up Asherah. The Knowledge of God...as you say...is not secret...it rather, is simple and without burden: Quoting: ToyTV1. Love Adonai your Elohim with all your heart, mind, and soul. (by denying the very thing you are propagating, and following His Law instead. Stop Sinning...Sin is Transgression of the Law. Study His Law...and follow it the best you can). Messiah (Christ) will pick up your shortcomings...as they will certainly be numerous. 2. Love thy Neighbor as yourself. The knowledge of God is very much secret and hidden or else we would not be having this conversation. But I completely agree with your quote for reaching the Kingdom. What you don't include is strength. Love God with all your heart mind soul and strength. Have you actually done it? That is the crux of what I'm talking about. You are preaching a Satanic Doctrine...and you don't even know it. Quoting: ToyTVLet me Guess, a list of your favorite movies would be: The Matrix V For Vendetta Fight Club Dark City etc... (Insert any other Gnostic Propaganda Movie Here) Not really, I preach the reality of Truth and the ability of man to perceive it Rightly and Be One with and Will of God. The only meaning of Satan is an adversary against man for and by God. Any angel that obstructed/challenged man was called a satan. You would know this if you would but please get more familiar with the entire culture the bible emerged from. I am an advocate. The bridge you trample trying collapse it instead of reaching the other side... If i had to pic a favorite movie it would be The Fountain. Last Edited by Apotheosis Rex Khristos on 10/27/2010 12:33 AM "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
| ToyTV
User ID: 727691 United States10/27/2010 12:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The knowledge you are speaking of is straight from The Garden...it is the knowledge of Satan...not of YHWH (who is the true creator of all things). The Gnostic Philosophy turns the story around (also why Occult ways and symbols are often depicted as upside down or backwards). YHWH is viewed as the evil one who ensnares souls into physical bodies...and that Satan is the saviour because he 'enlightens' with 'secret knowledge,' and rebels against YHWH. Quoting: Rex KhristosAnd the "knowledge of the garden" is the watered down version of a story passed down 6000 years ago to a guy who wrote it down (Moses, Genesis and old testiment) 2500 years later...and now it's 3500 years later than that you sure you have the Full Clear story? I don't think so You are speaking of Mystery Religion, Gnostic, Satanic, Esoteric Knowledge...which is forbidden by YHWH. Did you know YHWH was part of a divine couple in the old Hebreic culture? Look up Asherah. The Knowledge of God...as you say...is not secret...it rather, is simple and without burden: 1. Love Adonai your Elohim with all your heart, mind, and soul. (by denying the very thing you are propagating, and following His Law instead. Stop Sinning...Sin is Transgression of the Law. Study His Law...and follow it the best you can). Messiah (Christ) will pick up your shortcomings...as they will certainly be numerous. 2. Love thy Neighbor as yourself. The knowledge of God is very much secret and hidden or else we would not be having this conversation. But I completely agree with your quote for reaching the Kingdom. What you don't include is strength. Love God with all your heart mind soul and strength. Have you actually done it? That is the crux of what I'm talking about. You are preaching a Satanic Doctrine...and you don't even know it. Let me Guess, a list of your favorite movies would be: The Matrix V For Vendetta Fight Club Dark City etc... (Insert any other Gnostic Propaganda Movie Here) Not really, I preach the reality of Truth and the ability of man to perceive it Rightly and Be One with and Will of God. The only meaning of Satan is an adversary against man for and by God. Any angel that obstructed/challenged man was called a satan. You would know this if you would but please get more familiar with the entire culture the bible emerged from. I am an advocate. The bridge you trample trying collapse it instead of reaching the other side... If i had to pic a favorite movie it would be The Fountain. Well, I tried. Good luck man.  |
| Rex Khristos
(OP) User ID: 908143 United States10/27/2010 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, I tried. Good luck man. Quoting: ToyTVWell keep trying my fundamental friend!   "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
| Rex Khristos
(OP) User ID: 908143 United States10/27/2010 12:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would The God, our Magnanimous Parent frown on us for wrestling with the Truth? "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
| Rex Khristos
(OP) User ID: 908143 United States10/27/2010 12:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I will not let go until blessed!" "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
| ToyTV
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| Rex Khristos
(OP) User ID: 908143 United States10/27/2010 01:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would The God, our Magnanimous Parent frown on us for wrestling with the Truth? Quoting: ToyTVNo, He wouldn't... Prayers to you Rex. I pray you find the truth. One day, may we see it together and rejoice at our fortune.  "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
