The Antichrist was shown to us in "The passion of the Christ"

POD,

You are getting it sister. How fitting were the words when Yahawshuwa declares the link between John and Mary at the cross.

Now with that in mind..this will add to what you say.

Here is John's report:

Revelation 17
8The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.


There once was Mary
But the Beast IS NOT Mary
and YET IS Mary (fake mary)

[link to www.kjv1611revealed.com]

Scroll down to see a nice picture of FM decked in scarlet and purple.

I am gonna have to say that Yes, Catholics have been answering the same questions over and over. It is getting old when all of history is in your favor and someone say's but you worship Mary (false) therefore everything you say is wrong. To top it off, we get absolute nonsense (I will not point) that has no Biblical or historical backing posted as fact. Sometimes I feel like I am talking with Baghdad Bob.

Wow Shamar great link. I'm also looking at the blog you posted above about the Thomas/Lucia warning.

I do believe that warnings are everywhere.

Even in secular music and art.

The bible is a warning and instructions to keep the true children of the most high safe. While reading these warnings we are taught on how we should be.

When I preach I like to use the cliche catchphrase that modern preachers throw at their congregations every week:

"God is doing a new thing!"


FALSE!

He is not doing a new thing. His message has been in front of us all this time and it is US who rebelled and refused the message..

He is doing the same thing that he was doing in time of the Patriarchs..which is saving the elect who KNOW his sovereignty!

As much as you like to think, you're not in the inner circle of what goes down in the Vatican. You are the laymen who we love. It is not with you we wage war with.

There is a spirit that you don't understand because you were never instructed about it. Heck, I never was instructed about it either. But it has existed since the ancients of the fertile crescent.

I pray that the TRUE creator shows you the truth and your heart is tender enough to allow this truth to penetrate your innermost temple. If this doesn't happen, the words we say will infuriate you more and more.

All I can do is love you

Proverbs 9
7He that reproveth a scorner getteth to himself shame: and he that rebuketh a wicked man getteth himself a blot.

8Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.

9Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.



HalleluYAH

This was Mel Gibsons idea, God did not show us, remember this movie was Mels idea.

I know I am not part of the Vatican's inner circle. There is no big conspiracy in our church every Sunday. We say what we mean and mean what we say. We are flawed like everyone else. Catholics have a "learning mass" that basically tells you step by step what is going on and why. It takes about 2-3 hours. If anyone really wanted to know why we do the things we do, they would consider attending. If you are speaking from true knowledge, I will listen. If what you are saying is gossip and innuendo, then it will not be worth my time.

OP and I both came out of the RCC. I think we know what we're talking about....it is not gossip nor innuendo.

you title is a litte misleading..I've read several post But there's nothing about who the Antichrist could be that you claim was shown to us..
The 'baby' represented future sin that would come to the world. The Antichrist is a human being....
It's not 'Rosemary's baby' maybe Stanly's
Time will tell.

Then you know that we do not worship Mary, but pray to her for intercessions, knowing they all go to Christ. Right? Let's go ahead and get some fallacies out of the way.

What? Mary/Bob is from Baghdad? No wonder she pushes Babylonian Catholicism as hard as she does. It's all starting to become clear now. Are you all physically in Babylon or just spiritually?

The reason for the upside down cross on the chair of the Pope? Go on.... You know the reason, now explain it for the people that get Christianity from the movies. If we are being truthful in the spirit of Christ.... Right?

Why were Bibles chained up?... And why did they not want them read by themselves..

I will wait faithfully for the Catholic answers for our friends on this board.

right...... whatever.

Then what do you suppose jpII was doing here?

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“Mother of all individuals and peoples, you know all their sufferings and hopes. In your motherly heart you feel all the struggles between good and evil, between light and darkness, that convulse the world: accept the plea which we make in the Holy Spirit directly to your heart, and embrace with the love of the Mother and Handmaid of the Lord those who most await this embrace, and also those whose act of entrustment you too await in a particular way. Take under your motherly protection the whole human family, which with affectionate love we entrust to you, O Mother. May there dawn for everyone the time of peace and freedom, the time of truth, of justice and of hope”.

“O Mother of all men and women, and of all peoples, you who know all their sufferings and their hopes, you who have a mother's awareness of all the struggles between good and evil, between light and darkness, which afflict the modern world, accept the cry which we, moved by the Holy Spirit, address directly to your Heart. Embrace with the love of the Mother and Handmaid of the Lord, this human world of ours, which we entrust and consecrate to you, for we are full of concern for the earthly and eternal destiny of individuals and peoples.

In a special way we entrust and consecrate to you those individuals and nations which particularly need to be thus entrusted and consecrated.

‘We have recourse to your protection, holy Mother of God!' Despise not our petitions in our necessities”.


Above all creatures, may you be blessed, you, the Handmaid of the Lord, who in the fullest way obeyed the divine call!

Hail to you, who are wholly united to the redeeming consecration of your Son!

Mother of the Church! Enlighten the People of God along the paths of faith, hope, and love! Enlighten especially the peoples whose consecration and entrustment by us you are awaiting. Help us to live in the truth of the consecration of Christ for the entire human family of the modern world.

In entrusting to you, O Mother, the world, all individuals and peoples, we also entrust to you this very consecration of the world, placing it in your motherly Heart.

Immaculate Heart! Help us to conquer the menace of evil, which so easily takes root in the hearts of the people of today, and whose immeasurable effects already weigh down upon our modern world and seem to block the paths towards the future!

From famine and war, deliver us.

From nuclear war, from incalculable self-destruction, from every kind of war, deliver us.

From sins against the life of man from its very beginning, deliver us.

From hatred and from the demeaning of the dignity of the children of God, deliver us.

From every kind of injustice in the life of society, both national and international, deliver us.

From readiness to trample on the commandments of God, deliver us.

From attempts to stifle in human hearts the very truth of God, deliver us.

From the loss of awareness of good and evil, deliver us.

From sins against the Holy Spirit, deliver us, deliver us.

Accept, O Mother of Christ, this cry laden with the sufferings of all individual human beings, laden with the sufferings of whole societies.

Help us with the power of the Holy Spirit to conquer all sin: individual sin and the ‘sin of the world', sin in all its manifestations.

Let there be revealed, once more, in the history of the world the infinite saving power of the Redemption: the power of merciful Love! May it put a stop to evil! May it transform consciences! May your Immaculate Heart reveal for all the light of Hope!”.

Last Edited by If You Only Knew on 11/03/2010 01:43 PM

you are looking for catholic answers to your questions?? That's easy enough to provide. All one has to do is regurgitate the spoon fed propanda fed to them.

That's what I thought. You pretend to be in the spirit.

Sorry, I'm not going to further the lies put out by that institution.

Shamar is in the Spirit, the Holy Spirit, the Ruach Ha'Kodesh or YHWH.

This is different that the "spirit" of the RCC...you may know that spirit as Semiramis, Astarte, Diana, Cybele, Mary, Ashteroth, etc.

I understand that so many of you have invested your lives into learning a religion. You know your religion inside and out. You have pride of knowledge in that religion. It is a hard thing to admit that everything you have been taught is a lie...harder still to admit that those who taught you may have willfully deceived (though many of them are simply deceived themselves).

The Creator of the universe and His Sent One, YHWShA, our Messiah did NOT set up a religion. It has always been about relationship....the restoration of relationship through repentance and renewal/reaffirmation of the Covenant.

It is not just your religion, but all religions. The adherents to religion...I can SEE them in the stocks and chains of their bondage...all the while oblivious to their condition...never realizing that that your taskmasters give you bread that is full of worms and wine that is putrid and moldy.

In the fullness of the love of YHWH, I implore you, "COME OUT OF HER!"

LOL. Run out of protests so Shamar resorts to asking questions about the faith she now denies. Why? To deflect, she has nothing left.

Where does it say in Scripture the Bible is our authority, you've never answered? Give me the verse.

#2 - Where doe it say all of God's revelation is contained in the Bible? Give me the verse.

Your time spent at GLP, how sad, amounts to attacking the RCC and using a couple of Hebrew words to make the point you belong to a sect. You just repeated your "Bible Alone" belief today. Makes you Protestant Shamar, can't cover that with using a couple of Old Testament words. How juvenile.

scroll up yram ~ you missed my reply to you.

Jesus set up one Church. Use the term YHWShA, His name is Jesus Christ. You are American, not Hebrew Deborah. You belong to a little bitty sect which you have personalized to an even smaller sect.

Who belongs to it? Deborah. You're not bound by anything,
no requirements...all personal opinion.

Thanks for not using vulgarity as you do sometimes, you are being ladylike and most important, Jesus doesn't want you to
use it.

Missed it, Sharmar, saying the Bible is your authority is no evidence.

Where is that in the Bible? This is getting old. Book
and verse, post it.

If YHVH's word is not your authority, that is no skin off of my back.

You are roman catholic because you SAY you are, and you follow its teachings.

I am a follower of Yeshua because I SAY I am, and I follow His teachings.

POD,

Excellent points.

Catholic brothers and sisters, we put all our trust in Yahuwshuwa the Messiah whom we can't see or touch but, by believing the reports of the prophets we can see him in spirit and in truth..

Our faith stands on only one thing:

Yahuwshuwa crucified for the remission of sins to those who believe in him.


Rome complicates this simple (but very difficult stumbling block)faith and introduces "points of failure" into your faith matrix.

Mary
Eucharist
Pope is the "Vicar of Christ"
The Rosary
Priest can only forgive sins


Don't you understand that the above strips the gospel of its potency.

The above are nothing but insurance policies to prove to yourself that you're practicing what you preach.

Turn to the inward. Turn to the Ruach that will reconcile you unto almighty Yahuwah!

There is nothing else! Why can't you stand on Him alone?

This is a faith issue.


Look at what John reports as to who will be saved and reign with Yahuwshuwa. Look at the two attributes:

Douay-Rheimes Catholic Bible
Apocalypse 20
[4] And I saw seats; and they sat upon them; and judgment was given unto them; and the souls of them that were beheaded for the testimony of Jesus, and for the word of God, and who had not adored the beast nor his image, nor received his character on their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. [5] The rest of the dead lived not, till the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.


Yahuwshuwa
The Word of God

Thats it!

Why add more?

Deborah,

I am trying to help you. Until you can answer with definite
confirmation...showing...historical evidence and even in Scripture, it's obvious to all you've put your justificaction in your own personal opinion. Drat the Protestant false private interpretation of Scripture. PIOS is personal opinion.

Who canonized Scripture, since you deny the RCC did?

Over and over again it is written in Scripture, there is
a "continual sacrifice", a daily sacrifice...that you say "no" to...have denied in another thread. If Jesus' death on the cross is it, why does Scripture say there will be a daily Sacrifice until the end of time?

You also deny the New Covenant, calling it...so strange
a renewed Covenant? How is that? Jesus revealed in the Gospel the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity. God
the Holy Spirit. Is this why you deny the Trinity? God
the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Explain if
you would, which of the three you deny and why??? The Holy Spirit being God and a separate divine person is not revealed in the Torah.

And You deny Our Lord's presence in the Holy
Eucharist which is prefigured in the Old Covenant -manna- and revealed in the New....we receive Jesus....read John 6.
I give you two major "New" revelations from God of His plan not revealed in the Torah.

Explain.

LOL...the name "Jesus" didn't exist at the time the Messiah, whose name IS YHWShA (Yehoshua), walked in the flesh upon the earth. The letter "J" has only been around for a few hundred years. The early Latin translations couldn't have even said "Jesus". The earliest manuscripts(that we have available) of the "New Testament" weren't written in Latin or "Greek", but in Hellenistic. The Messiah was not a Greek, nor was he a Roman...HE WAS AN HEBREW, an Y'Isra'elite of the Tribe of Yehudah. You fail, yram!

And yes, yram, I AM HEBREW. My lineage includes the tribe of Benyahmin on my father's side and the tribes of Yehudah, Lewi, Benyahmin, and Simeon on my mother's side. I only live in the States...I am OF Y'Isra'el.

Again, no "church" in the Scriptures. A called out, set-apart assembly who return to the Covenant of YHWH through YHWShA Ha'Moshiach, yes.

You follow a religion. I have a relationship. It saddens me that you do not understand the difference.

Your religion demands sacraments...requiring you to follow those commandments of man down to the letter.

My relationship is about commandments/instructions in righteousness...the TORAH. YHWShA was/is the TORAH made flesh. My relationship is with the Father, YHWH through the Torah made flesh who gave the Holy Spirit/Ruach Ha'Kodesh to instruct us in all righteousness...which is found in TORAH.

I do appreciate that you recognize that I am not now nor will I be member to any organization which is man-made.

PS - The remnant is "itty-bitty" compared to the Mother Harlot of Rome...your point being what exactly?

Nothing is added, God has revealed more...you choose to
say no.

You want it your way, preaching YAH Stone's version. No, Jesus said you must do all that I command of you if you love Me.

Putting an exclamation point and saying there is nothing more is your easy out and fails, this is why you protest so much. I'll decide the meaning God's revelation and pick and choose what I will follow says every Protestant.

I shall post for the 1000th time it is in the Bible...confession to a priest. It is God's plan. Jesus said "whose sins you shall forgive" that eliminates your personal confession to God. The "easy" way again and not true. You must confess your mortal sins to a priest. This is how Jesus set it up. Protestants deny the authority of the Church and the power of the priesthood so they ignore John 20:23. You would think it would bother them not being able to reconcile those words of Our Lord...nope.

The easy way...'baby Christians.'

yram ~ you and your institution have TOTALLY misunderstood this verse and misconstrued it, much to your detriment.

WE are to forgive one another as He forgives us. WE will be judged as WE judge others.

There is no mystical power given to certain men who claim to have the authority of Yeshua haMashiach through certain man-made teachings and doctrines. All who are indwelt by the Ruach ha'Kodesh, HAVE this same authority and retention given by our Mashiach.