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Phennommennonn
Forum Administrator User ID: 1034196 United States 10/08/2010 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there it is...the Real numbers. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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DaJavoo
(OP) User ID: 1120139 United States 10/08/2010 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there it is...the Real numbers. Quoting: PhennommennonnIt's almost meaningless ~ so many people have dropped OFF the rolls it's impossible to count. Mix it in with the aid & food stamp numbers and toss in the foreclosures ~ it's plain to see the wheels have flown off this bitch. :DJrebelli: |
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DaJavoo
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 373696 United States 10/08/2010 11:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Private-sector payroll employment continued to trend up modestly (+64,000). (More Party-line BS here: [link to www.bls.gov] ) Quoting: DaJavooJust curious - what makes you think it's BS? |
Phennommennonn
Forum Administrator User ID: 1034196 United States 10/08/2010 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | daj drew sent out over 37 appz, bc he lost his job again after 3 months. he employed by a temp agency right now. i sent him back to college. he pulling dbl duty right now. but despite the economy im opening biz number 3 and he will work for me. im done with pvt sector. fuck them. the ed he will get in 2 yrs, assoc degree i will have a job for him with scientific game. (theyre one of my customers ) but he will be going for the BA Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 10/08/2010 11:11 AM political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Northforker
User ID: 1119042 Canada 10/08/2010 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And so it begins. Let the societal meltdown commence. Calling an illegal alien an undocumented alien is like calling a drug dealer an unlicensed pharmacist. I just realized... they aren't saying, "Keynesian Economics" they're saying "Kenyansian Economics". Grass Huts for everyone! Herbert Spencer, originator of the term, "Survival of the Fittest," said it best - "The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools." |
DaJavoo
(OP) User ID: 1120139 United States 10/08/2010 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So 23% unemployment uh? Nice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1123617Canada is not much better ~ Perhaps you could speak to either a more blatant group of liars or perhaps a booming economy? I am not aware of a similar SGS type group showing 'real' UE stats from Canada. Latest release from the Labour Force Survey Friday, October 8, 2010 Released at 7:00 a.m. Eastern time There was little change in employment in September, as full-time gains were offset by part-time losses. The unemployment rate edged down 0.1 percentage points to 8.0%, as fewer people, particularly youth, participated in the labour market. [link to www.statcan.gc.ca] :DJrebelli: |
DaJavoo
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DaJavoo
(OP) User ID: 1120139 United States 10/08/2010 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Private-sector payroll employment continued to trend up modestly (+64,000). (More Party-line BS here: [link to www.bls.gov] ) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 373696Just curious - what makes you think it's BS? Because, as the SGS site indicates the numbers do not count the U6 stat nor other 'discouraged' workers ~ the SGS chart SHOWS that. Also, if you follow the official reporting, the stats are always tweaked AFTER the report comes out ~ but the official % never is adjusted. One merely needs to dp their own fact-finding and not swill the pablum of gov-speak. :DJrebelli: |
DaJavoo
(OP) User ID: 1120139 United States 10/08/2010 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | daj drew sent out over 37 appz, bc he lost his job again after 3 months. he employed by a temp agency right now. i sent him back to college. he pulling dbl duty right now. but despite the economy im opening biz number 3 and he will work for me. im done with pvt sector. fuck them. Quoting: Phennommennonnthe ed he will get in 2 yrs, assoc degree i will have a job for him with scientific game. (theyre one of my customers ) but he will be going for the BA Better late than never ~ and an entrepreneurial rabbit out of the hat will probably save the bacon in the short term ~ as Celente says ~ quality will be the name of the game. Here's rootin' for ya'll!!! :DJrebelli: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 373696 United States 10/08/2010 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Private-sector payroll employment continued to trend up modestly (+64,000). (More Party-line BS here: [link to www.bls.gov] ) Quoting: DaJavooJust curious - what makes you think it's BS? Because, as the SGS site indicates the numbers do not count the U6 stat nor other 'discouraged' workers ~ the SGS chart SHOWS that. Also, if you follow the official reporting, the stats are always tweaked AFTER the report comes out ~ but the official % never is adjusted. One merely needs to dp their own fact-finding and not swill the pablum of gov-speak. :DJspanky: OK, I understand that, I thought you were referring to the private sector number in particular. I wish I was as smart as Spanky. |
DaJavoo
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DaJavoo
(OP) User ID: 1120139 United States 10/08/2010 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Private-sector payroll employment continued to trend up modestly (+64,000). (More Party-line BS here: [link to www.bls.gov] ) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 373696Just curious - what makes you think it's BS? Because, as the SGS site indicates the numbers do not count the U6 stat nor other 'discouraged' workers ~ the SGS chart SHOWS that. Also, if you follow the official reporting, the stats are always tweaked AFTER the report comes out ~ but the official % never is adjusted. One merely needs to dp their own fact-finding and not swill the pablum of gov-speak. OK, I understand that, I thought you were referring to the private sector number in particular. I wish I was as smart as Spanky. No, I was referring to the whole enchilada being served up by the BLS. :DJrebelli: |
Phennommennonn
Forum Administrator User ID: 1034196 United States 10/08/2010 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | daj drew sent out over 37 appz, bc he lost his job again after 3 months. he employed by a temp agency right now. i sent him back to college. he pulling dbl duty right now. but despite the economy im opening biz number 3 and he will work for me. im done with pvt sector. fuck them. Quoting: DaJavoothe ed he will get in 2 yrs, assoc degree i will have a job for him with scientific game. (theyre one of my customers ) but he will be going for the BA Better late than never ~ and an entrepreneurial rabbit out of the hat will probably save the bacon in the short term ~ as Celente says ~ quality will be the name of the game. Here's rootin' for ya'll!!! problem is beyond pvt sector.....theyre ass raping small biz. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1107716 United States 10/08/2010 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We need to take a look at who is becoming unemployed and who isn't. Who is. People working in financial sectors, legal and government related sectors. Particularly in large cities. Most of these jobs were created buy bubbles. Bubbles that were blown illegally, and behind the people's back. Next would be people in those cities who supported those workers. Pizza, hot dog stands, barber shops, taverns, diners, post offices, restaurants, police departments, clothing, auto repair shops, PC businesses, etc. When large sections of cities implode, so do all the businesses that support those people. Government. Many agencies that were previously growing, are now shrinking. Less taxes coming in from two arenas. The bubble arena, and the working class arena who just lost a good chunk of their savings due to the collapse. Housing. When people loose their jobs as bubbles collapse, the people above that is, they loose their homes. This means banks will be taking hits, and laying off. Those that don't loose their homes and are hanging on, have to cut back. The fist bill they don't pay is taxes. Everything else is necessity. This again further hurts the supports sectors and governments that were growing. THIS IS ALL GOOD. Those above jobs were not only created illegally but were damaging the working class by creating unstable investment platforms, making it difficult to get loans, and giving a false sense of net worth. Who will be effected the least. People in the country People that produce (products, foods, farms, fishing, etc.) People that didn't borrow too far beyond their means People not afraid to put hours in People that don't chase an easy buck The collapse is here and most the ones collapsing are the ones that need to collapse. The blue collar working class out in the country will be fine, and fortunately, make up the majority of this country. Heck, if it wasn't for the blue collar working class, there would be no other class!!!! Be self sufficient Depend on no other Learn as many trade skills as you can Dont borrow Dont live beyond your means Put savings into gold & silver Teach others what you know The corruption will purge itself from the system on its own. |
DaJavoo
(OP) User ID: 1120139 United States 10/08/2010 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | George Ure comments: What's the bottom line here? Simply this: With lots of people running out of benefits, the number of unemployed showed a statistical drop of 93,000 people. At the same time, the number of people 'not in the workforce' increased by 175,000. Statistically therefore, the rate was able to hold steady. Except of course, if you're dumpster diving or living under a freeway overpass. Then the rate just plain isn't believable. [link to urbansurvival.com] :DJrebelli: |
Poof
User ID: 1098596 United States 10/08/2010 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there it is...the Real numbers. Quoting: DaJavooIt's almost meaningless ~ so many people have dropped OFF the rolls it's impossible to count. Mix it in with the aid & food stamp numbers and toss in the foreclosures ~ it's plain to see the wheels have flown off this bitch. Hey neighbor. I'm afraid you're right. Even my calm, level headed husband is starting to pick apart various "starving zombie horde" scenarios. |
Phennommennonn
Forum Administrator User ID: 1034196 United States 10/08/2010 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | George Ure comments: Quoting: DaJavooWhat's the bottom line here? Simply this: With lots of people running out of benefits, the number of unemployed showed a statistical drop of 93,000 people. At the same time, the number of people 'not in the workforce' increased by 175,000. Statistically therefore, the rate was able to hold steady. Except of course, if you're dumpster diving or living under a freeway overpass. Then the rate just plain isn't believable. [link to urbansurvival.com] ure agreed to come to GLP VC last night but never confirmed a time. dood stood us up. Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 10/08/2010 11:23 AM political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
aUm
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Videobarbs User ID: 1121791 United States 10/08/2010 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I noticed yesterday they said it was higher than 10% but this morning news dropped it back down to 9.6%. What bunch of liars they are. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1123140Of course they did. I expected just that. It's an old sales ploy - sell something at $9.95 versus $10.00 because all sheeple see is the "9" and think it's considerably cheaper...all of a nickel's worth. |
DaJavoo
(OP) User ID: 1120139 United States 10/08/2010 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | daj drew sent out over 37 appz, bc he lost his job again after 3 months. he employed by a temp agency right now. i sent him back to college. he pulling dbl duty right now. but despite the economy im opening biz number 3 and he will work for me. im done with pvt sector. fuck them. Quoting: Phennommennonnthe ed he will get in 2 yrs, assoc degree i will have a job for him with scientific game. (theyre one of my customers ) but he will be going for the BA Better late than never ~ and an entrepreneurial rabbit out of the hat will probably save the bacon in the short term ~ as Celente says ~ quality will be the name of the game. Here's rootin' for ya'll!!! problem is beyond pvt sector.....theyre ass raping small biz. Sweetie, they've been butt fukin' us and keep flippin' us over for another go at it for years. :DJrebelli: |
DaJavoo
(OP) User ID: 1120139 United States 10/08/2010 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there it is...the Real numbers. Quoting: PoofIt's almost meaningless ~ so many people have dropped OFF the rolls it's impossible to count. Mix it in with the aid & food stamp numbers and toss in the foreclosures ~ it's plain to see the wheels have flown off this bitch. Hey neighbor. I'm afraid you're right. Even my calm, level headed husband is starting to pick apart various "starving zombie horde" scenarios. :DJrebelli: |
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DaJavoo
(OP) User ID: 1120139 United States 10/08/2010 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | George Ure comments: Quoting: PhennommennonnWhat's the bottom line here? Simply this: With lots of people running out of benefits, the number of unemployed showed a statistical drop of 93,000 people. At the same time, the number of people 'not in the workforce' increased by 175,000. Statistically therefore, the rate was able to hold steady. Except of course, if you're dumpster diving or living under a freeway overpass. Then the rate just plain isn't believable. [link to urbansurvival.com] ure agreed to come to GLP VC last night but never confirmed a time. dood stood us up. I'm pretty sure he and Elaine are on the road this weekend. Not that it's an excuse... :DJrebelli: |
DaJavoo
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DaJavoo
(OP) User ID: 1120139 United States 10/08/2010 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So 23% unemployment uh? Nice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1072315Investors Business Daily™ commissioned a poll and found the actual unemployment rate to be appx 28%. that was a few months ago, i need to go check to see if they updated it. . SGS does it monthly for the money supply, inflation, unemplyoment, GDP & the U.S. Dollar... [link to www.shadowstats.com] :DJrebelli: |
Videobarbs User ID: 1121791 United States 10/08/2010 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So 23% unemployment uh? Nice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1123617I was guessing 9-21%, but your 23% works for me as well. That computes to about 20% of the work force (or 30 Million). Factor in the "working poor" and that portends a depression model. I'd say watch the Christmas shopping season, but they'll pump those figures up too. Sadly, there is next to nothing you can trust with the spin doctors known as our government public servants. They don't serve the public. They serve the bankers, wall street firms and the corporations. |
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