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Astronut
Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 634208 United States 10/01/2010 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NASA has had plenty of fundings to put another Moon trip together in half a century. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 909358LMFAO! Buuuulllcraaappp! [link to jeffreyellis.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 909358 United States 10/01/2010 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well now you understand that the Moon is not just an empty rock and there is always new things to learn. Explain to me why there hasnt been any manned missions to the Moon since the 60s. You know how much we have advanced in technology over the last 50 years. Why not use this technology to discover new things on the Moon? Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyJust because I said something dumb doesn't make the moon landings fake....typical denier action. You are backtracking, lets try to progress over your past statements. The reason I have a hard time to believe we landed on the Moon is because we havent gone back in 50 years, when there is so much more to learn about this "rock". So I am trying to get an answer from you. You know how much we have advanced in technology over the last 50 years. Why not use this technology to discover new things on the Moon? One word .... FUNDING! You do know know the finial missions were canceled because people thought the money was better spend here on earth. If NASA wanted the funding to visit the Moon they would get it. How much do they spend yearly on the International Space Station? |
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User ID: 1044099 United States 10/01/2010 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Regarding the Van Allen belts, and the nature of the radiation in them, they are doughnut-shaped regions where charged particles, both protons and electrons, are trapped in the Earth's magnetic field. The number of particles encountered (flux is the technical jargon, to impress your friends!) depends on the energy of the particles; in general, the flux of high-energy particles is less, and the flux of low-energy particles is more. Very low energy particles cannot penetrate the skin of a spacecraft, nor even the skin of an astronaut. Very roughly speaking, electrons below about 1 million electron volts (MeV) are unlikely to be dangerous, and protons below 10 MeV are also not sufficiently penetrating to be a concern. The actual fluxes encountered in the Van Allen belts is a matter of great commercial importance, as communications satellites operate in the outer region, and their electronics, and hence lifetimes, are strongly affected by the radiation environment. Thus billions of dollars are at stake, never mind the Moon! The standard database on the fluxes in the belt are the models for the trapped radiation environment, AP8 for protons, and AE8 for electrons, maintained by the National Space Sciences Data Center at NASA's Goddard Spaceflight Center. Barth (1999) gives a summary which indicates that electrons with energies over 1 MeV have a flux above a million per square centimeter per second from 1-6 earth radii (about 6,300 - 38,000 km), and protons over 10 MeV have a flux above one hundred thousand per square centimeter per second from about 1.5-2.5 Earth radii (9,500 km - 16,000 km). [link to www.wwheaton.com] How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
Astronut
Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 634208 United States 10/01/2010 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If NASA wanted the funding to visit the Moon they would get it. How much do they spend yearly on the International Space Station? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 909358Oh bullshit! NASA would LOVE the funding to get back to the moon, congress isn't going to give it to them, at least anything approaching the rate of funding they had in the 60's. ISS only costs about 1.7-1.8 billion a year. In the Apollo days, Apollo ate up nearly all of NASA's 30+ billion dollar budget! Apollo's total cost was about 100 years worth of the ISS budget in 2005 dollars. Last Edited by Astromut on 10/01/2010 11:40 AM |
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User ID: 1044099 United States 10/01/2010 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The ever-present shills on these threads can do the daisy chain circle jerk dance until the cows come home...but it is still so ridiculously obviously faked. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1113606OK I'm a shill for real science! How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1113606 Mexico 10/01/2010 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The ever-present shills on these threads can do the daisy chain circle jerk dance until the cows come home...but it is still so ridiculously obviously faked. Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyOK I'm a shill for real science! You may be a lot of things Nikky LaVey, but I doubt that you are a shill or a scientist. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1116217 United States 10/01/2010 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Better yet, the ones that insist that the Germans got to the moon in WWII... Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyNo really like Wernher von Braun was able to do it for the Nazis and couldn't do it for us for like 30 years later. And the U.S. asn't been able to do it again for 41 YEARS! |
Nikki_LaVey
User ID: 1044099 United States 10/01/2010 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Better yet, the ones that insist that the Germans got to the moon in WWII... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1116217No really like Wernher von Braun was able to do it for the Nazis and couldn't do it for us for like 30 years later. And the U.S. asn't been able to do it again for 41 YEARS! We haven't had the will or funding to go back! How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1113606 Mexico 10/01/2010 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The ever-present shills on these threads can do the daisy chain circle jerk dance until the cows come home...but it is still so ridiculously obviously faked. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1113606OK I'm a shill for real science! You may be a lot of things Nikky LaVey, but I doubt that you are a shill or a scientist. No offence intended by the way. You are one of my favorite posters here. |
Nikki_LaVey
User ID: 1044099 United States 10/01/2010 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The ever-present shills on these threads can do the daisy chain circle jerk dance until the cows come home...but it is still so ridiculously obviously faked. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1113606OK I'm a shill for real science! You may be a lot of things Nikky LaVey, but I doubt that you are a shill or a scientist. No offence intended by the way. You are one of my favorite posters here. None taken! How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
wolverine
User ID: 1106826 United States 10/01/2010 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Three words. VAN ALLEN BELT. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1115051That is all. But other of our space devices make it through that....right?... Not manned ones. and even if our astronuts went through it they would have all gotten cancer and died early, not lived to be 100 year old american heroes like they did. SLAM THAT CLAM |
DanfromtheHills
User ID: 945238 United States 10/01/2010 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Out of everything the human race has accomplished...Especially regarding space exploration...why is landing on the closest object in space so hard to believe? Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyAsk Neil Armstrong. He has his doubts. Perhaps we can all just agree to treat the "moon landings" as a legend that may or may not have actually occurred--rather like the alleged 6th-century discovery of America by St. Brendan the Navigator, or the hobnobbing with Kublai Khan attributed to Marco Polo. [link to books.google.com] --- As for walking on the moon, sometimes I wonder if that really happened. - Neil Armstrong --- See this is taking something totally out of context! Indeed it was. The full quote, given at the google book link, as it appears on page 303, is very enlightening. "As for walking on the Moon, sometimes I wonder if that really happened. I can honestly say--and it's a great surprise to me--that I have never had a dream about being on the Moon. It's a great disappointment to me." -- Neil Armstrong. That is odd. You'd think he would dream about the Moon at least sometimes... "Nothing to see here, go back to sheep..." --- AC 1251379 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1116217 United States 10/01/2010 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Out of everything the human race has accomplished...Especially regarding space exploration...why is landing on the closest object in space so hard to believe? Quoting: DanfromtheHillsAsk Neil Armstrong. He has his doubts. Perhaps we can all just agree to treat the "moon landings" as a legend that may or may not have actually occurred--rather like the alleged 6th-century discovery of America by St. Brendan the Navigator, or the hobnobbing with Kublai Khan attributed to Marco Polo. [link to books.google.com] --- As for walking on the moon, sometimes I wonder if that really happened. - Neil Armstrong --- See this is taking something totally out of context! Indeed it was. The full quote, given at the google book link, as it appears on page 303, is very enlightening. "As for walking on the Moon, sometimes I wonder if that really happened. I can honestly say--and it's a great surprise to me--that I have never had a dream about being on the Moon. It's a great disappointment to me." -- Neil Armstrong. That is odd. You'd think he would dream about the Moon at least sometimes... BINGO! |
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Nikki_LaVey
User ID: 1044099 United States 10/01/2010 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Out of everything the human race has accomplished...Especially regarding space exploration...why is landing on the closest object in space so hard to believe? Quoting: DanfromtheHillsAsk Neil Armstrong. He has his doubts. Perhaps we can all just agree to treat the "moon landings" as a legend that may or may not have actually occurred--rather like the alleged 6th-century discovery of America by St. Brendan the Navigator, or the hobnobbing with Kublai Khan attributed to Marco Polo. [link to books.google.com] --- As for walking on the moon, sometimes I wonder if that really happened. - Neil Armstrong --- See this is taking something totally out of context! Indeed it was. The full quote, given at the google book link, as it appears on page 303, is very enlightening. "As for walking on the Moon, sometimes I wonder if that really happened. I can honestly say--and it's a great surprise to me--that I have never had a dream about being on the Moon. It's a great disappointment to me." -- Neil Armstrong. That is odd. You'd think he would dream about the Moon at least sometimes... Who knows why people dream of some things and not others. As for taking things out of context people here pull that trick all the time. For the record Neil Armstrong was a crappy pilot and shouldn't have been on any moon missions. I always wondered why Chuck Yeager was never chosen fly for NASA ... Not long ago I found out why. He was training military astronauts for spy missions that ended up being cancelled. How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
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