Why do so many doubt the moon landing?

For those who choose to go beyond TRUTHS protective layer. Hmmmm what did he mean?

He ment we never went to the moon. You guys are transperant.

DISTANCE FROM EARTH IDIOT ....WOW I never thought it would be so easy to defeat you. Now you claim to not get the jist of my queiry. And you come back with dudes in the mir orbiting earth. HAhahaha wow you are so outed. You should be fired.

You're an idiot aren't you. A round trip is not distance from Earth. Clearly this is a case of moving the goalposts.

Last Edited by Commutator on 11/01/2010 08:19 PM

Counterintuitive? Your playing stupid. Thanks for confirming your shill status. Thanks so much.

Either:

1. This person truly believes what he says.

or

2. He's supposed to say these things.


Either way, you're wasting your time. Sometimes when you have "Eureka" moments in life, it's best to just keep them to yourself.

Yup. I been lurking these moon threads for awile just waiting for enough data so as to be sure. Now we know. I am so done with astro toseek and comontater.
PROVEN agents of disinfo. WOW! Our fuckn country is a wierd place.

And you are a proven liar. Tell us again what country is paying you to lie about the Moon landings. Do you get paid in dollars or in a foreign currency?

I asked this last month still waiting for a answer . Oh that's right I'm a wingnut.

Your not really all right in your head are you? I wouldn't have guessed this on my own but with your help it is now plane as day. Do yourself a favor....take some time off and perhapse find some help. Good luck, perhapse one day you'll refind your spirit.

Here's a question for you? Why would anyone do this? What would be the point?

EXACTLY!!! That sums up the general, massive doubt quite nicely. Well said. Another thing: If we had such great success with Apollo, why reward that success by (prematurely) canceling the program?!

Prove you aren't being paid for what you post.


Or admit you are just making up lies when you say you know I'm being paid for what I post.




At least I know the difference between "plane" and "plain."

So you really don't have an argument. All you can do is cry shill and if someone calls you a shill back you run away like a little child. Typical. Bye bye, don't let the door hit you on the butt.

Last Edited by Commutator on 11/01/2010 08:40 PM

Ever here the term budget cuts

I won't say what I believe one way or the other, but I will give a probable scenario:

IF the images and video that we've seen of the moon landings are fake, then it is probable that NASA will never admit to it. If they ever did, then it would be long after every Apollo astronaut has passed away from natural causes. NASA would never harm the reputation of these astronauts while they are still alive. The generation that witnessed this event is still alive and again, they would be part of the affected group. Admitting to faking the moon landings would be about the biggest disaster in U.S. and world history.

There has been Billions of dollars spent and countless man hours on projects that were supposed to be used for the purpose of going to the moon. If those were shown to be all for nothing, then the entire NASA organization would be called into question. Everything NASA every did or claimed to do would be subject to inquisition and cause a distrust from the public on a massive scale. Many, many thousands of people could be out of a job and an entire industry surrounding the moon landings, NASA's accomplishments with it, along with lives of the astronauts would be ridiculed. Think how many kids would have their dreams of being an astronaut crushed if they found out it was fake.

The moon landings are an important link in a chain that is NASA. If it's broken, then the world would never be the same again. NASA is much, much bigger and has more far reaching implications than you could ever imagine. It is a massive industry that under no circumstance will be brought down. You have to understand this, and really think about what you're expecting NASA to admit to.

IF NASA was faced with this dilemma, they would probably opt to protect themselves and their history at all costs. It would absolutely be probable that people would be paid to scour internet boards and fend off any potential problems. These people would be well versed in areas of space science that would give them credibility and the best sounding answers to any question that is posed.

Such an employee would not admit to being paid for such a thing, as that would have the opposite effect of what they would be trying to accomplish. These kinds of boards are full of people who believe in conspiracies, and therefore are generally targets of ridicule in the first place. IF someone was paid to refute "Evidence" that the moon landings were faked, then a tactic would be to discredit the person who posted the findings. On such a board, those tactics would be obvious. Any good psychologist will tell you that one way to discredit someone is to constantly attack them. I won't go into the long details of that, but it is VERY textbook. Unfortunately, people fall for it time and time again and thus all of these arguments are created. It becomes pointless, and tiring...but again, isn't that the point?

It's best not to worry about what you may or may not have discovered about anything to do with the Moon Landings. You can not change what people are paid to believe and you can not change what facts are true, or what facts may be discovered. All you can do is absorb what you learn, believe what you will and go on about your life.

We've been through this before. We live in the United States of America, where the Federal Reserve prints our money and inflates/deflates it at will, and "budget constraints" mean nothing. Honestly, you live in America, and you're going to use the argument "budget constraints"??? We're the only country when, faced with massive deficits and enormous debt, seeks to SPEND our way out of it. That's like someone with AIDS trying to cure him/herself by having unprotected sex. You've just discredited yourself on that point.

Another ridiculously stupid argument for why America prematurely quit the Apollo program was "lack of interest". This one's my favorite. As if relatively anyone watches the STS space shuttle missions?! If "public interest" had even the slightest thing to do with whether or not to continue a government program, 75% of government programs would be done away with. The "lack of public interest" and "budget constraints" arguments are completely disingenuous arguments. Try again, Funboy.

Perhaps you can take that to be the answer. The one item I never got an answer for was when (one) Astronaut picked up a rock on the moon (the biggest one) he just 'rolled it up his leg'. @ 1/6 the weight, 4.3 lbs he should have been able to pick it up easier than it looks in the vid. Why would he say it was 20lbs after he picked it up if it weighed less than 5 lbs on the moon?
[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.statesman.com]
"At just short of 26 pounds, "Big Muley" (aka lunar sample 61016) is the largest and heaviest piece of the moon ever brought back to Earth."

Amazing. You are really that stupid.

Another ridiculous post from another nutjob. Oh wait. It is the same one changing his name every post. Oh no, he is much too clever for us.

You are still an idiot.

Last Edited by Commutator on 11/01/2010 09:32 PM

So an astronaut picks up a large rock with one hand wearing a bulky suit with thick gloves while with his other hand he balanced himself on a scoop but based the weight of the rock on its size BEFORE he tries to pick it up and his guess comes pretty close and you think that is evidence that we didn't go to the Moon? Does that sum it up?

CunnyTraitor can't answer the Armstrong quote or why we stopped going. I guess the only thing it lists for a response in the official NASA debunking booklet is: "budget constraints". Then, below that, it says: When your opponent blasts that defense out of the water, resort to personal attacks; early and often.

What are you talking about? Where was it proven that I am a "disinfo agent"? Oh yeah, that's right, it wasn't proven at all.

Clearly you've never read the whole speech or you're just so fucking biased you don't see how he was actually talking about the process of scientific discovery in general and that many discoveries are still left to be made by those with insight. That rules out hoax believing idiots like you.

My 'question' was pertaining to saying it was 20 lbs after picking it up. Moon weight was less than 5lbs why say it was 20 lbs. I find it to be an 'curious', are you saying he wouldn't have been able to pick up a 26 lb rock using the very same moves? It is far from being the most compelling items.

Your own "evidence" clearly shows this is not a movie set.

[link to apolloanomalies.com]

While trying to make one claim, you debunk another.


Here's the movie set. You'll notice an uncanny lack of similarity in the terrain, all other differences aside. BTW: Looks like most of the moon here is a matte painting.

[link to mimg.ugo.com]


Since I'm here now and haven't followed this thread a lot, I will inform you as to why stars are not visible in the Apollo pics.

1. Brightness of the sun precludes human perception of objects that are vastly more dim. But I digress.

2. Film latitude (light to dark ratio) is way too narrow to encompass the wide range needed to record a bright sunlit moonscape and include any stars whatsoever. It's simply impossible.

Color print film of the 60s had a latitude of about 5 f stops. At a film speed (sensitivity) of 100 ASA (now ISO) a sunlit scene coud be captured at f8 or f11(aperture) /250th of sec shutter speed.

To capture any stars at all you need to shoot f2 (4 x wider than 8) at a shutter speed of about 2 minutes. That's roughly a 15 stop difference. Each stop reduction cuts the amount of light by half. So you can see the difference is vast.

Color slide film had even less latitude so I doubt that it was used for the missions. I'm guessing Kodacolor c-24 color negative film was used because it has that signature look to the pics. Different films have different looks.

While I know the government has lied and hoaxed the masses over and over again. This is simply not one of them. The mindset of the cold war precluded such a hoax as there was simply to much pride to lose by getting caught in fakery.

We were once a nation that was proud of who we were as a people, as a nation, and of our achievements, and our abundance, and to be able to share those achievments with the world, and thus raise the bar for the standard of living. And not just for ourselves.

That is gone. America is a different place than it was back then. We have become self doubting and cynical. There's a boogie man behind every rock and we are way too sensitive for our own good.

I can see that growing up in modern times one can be swayed that we didn't do what we did. But we did. It was a massive national effort and we were an inspired people in those days.

This was a space race and it was for real, for ourselves and the Russians. Remember, we spent the 40's and especially the 50's fantasizing about going into space. We made it to the moon.

We quit going because of lost interest and there was apparently nothing there that warranted the expense of our return.

It really was kind of a social orgasm after which we went partially back to sleep. I can say that nothing in my lifetime has roused the natonal spirit as did the space race.

You really would do your self good to find another conspiracy to hang your hat on. At least one that has some more plausable leads to it.

Good day.

You're right. I haven't read the whole speech. I WATCHED him give it on video. He said TRUTH's protective layer; not science's" protective layer. Neil doesn't speak publicly often, but when he does, he chooses his words carefully and makes them count.

So fake, tragic but true.