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For the TRUE Followers of Christ Our Messiah (Holiness)

 
ToyTV  (OP)

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Well, we would need a Torah Court of Law (in which there is none in existance today) and two witnesses in order to enforce this Levitical Law and execute it's sentence...So, we may not stone anyone. You go right ahead. I'll follow my Fathers law.

You will need a false Christian who doesn't know his scripture in order to trap them into your game my friend. ;)


So why did you post mostly from the Old Testament? Most Christians have never been to Egypt, and haven't been rescued from Egypt by God.
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I believe in the Bible as "one" testament. People are still in Egypt. Egypt, Sumaria, Babylon, Greece, Rome...NWO...whatever (we are actually still under the Roman Empire, which is the same as Egypt...But that's another post).

All the same brother...


I have been released from the Slavery of Egypt. Thanks to my Father in Heaven. Praise to Adoanai my Elohim.

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You know, there are plenty of other Christian forums you Christians can go to in order to present your case. You don't need to do it here. In fact, the majority of people here would like you to go away.
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Too bad, and fyi, those "Christian" forums are mostly full of faux Christian's. They, for the most part, just want to hear how good they are, or about their easy escapism fantasy (pre-trib rapture), or get a pat on the back for doing a good deed.

Those of us here, for the most part, who are of the Body of Christ, are humble, compassionate, empathetic, and repentant. We actually care about you, so much so, that we'll take your verbal barrages to spread the Gospel.
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Well, we would need a Torah Court of Law (in which there is none in existance today) and two witnesses in order to enforce this Levitical Law and execute it's sentence...So, we may not stone anyone. You go right ahead. I'll follow my Fathers law.

You will need a false Christian who doesn't know his scripture in order to trap them into your game my friend. ;)


So why did you post mostly from the Old Testament? Most Christians have never been to Egypt, and haven't been rescued from Egypt by God.
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Yes, God did rescue me out of Egypt. In NT times, Egypt was used symbolically for sin and it's consequences. And all Christian's have been to Egypt (sin), and delivered from it's consequences, while being called to leave Egypt (sin) and live a life separate from worldly ways (to be holy).
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Yes, God did rescue me out of Egypt. In NT times, Egypt was used symbolically for sin and it's consequences. And all Christian's have been to Egypt (sin), and delivered from it's consequences, while being called to leave Egypt (sin) and live a life separate from worldly ways (to be holy).
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Amen!
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Well, we would need a Torah Court of Law (in which there is none in existance today) and two witnesses in order to enforce this Levitical Law and execute it's sentence...So, we may not stone anyone. You go right ahead. I'll follow my Fathers law.

You will need a false Christian who doesn't know his scripture in order to trap them into your game my friend. ;)


So why did you post mostly from the Old Testament? Most Christians have never been to Egypt, and haven't been rescued from Egypt by God.



Yes, God did rescue me out of Egypt. In NT times, Egypt was used symbolically for sin and it's consequences. And all Christian's have been to Egypt (sin), and delivered from it's consequences, while being called to leave Egypt (sin) and live a life separate from worldly ways (to be holy).
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You are all being mind controlled
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You are all being mind controlled
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Good Luck with that Zazzummin...and thanks for the bump.

I want to reach as many believers as I can this week; to remind them that they need to be SET APART from this world, and to Our Holy Father in Heaven.


So Thank You Zazzummin. May You find the Truth my friend.

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You are all being mind controlled


Good Luck with that Zazzummin...and thanks for the bump.

I want to reach as many believers as I can this week; to remind them that they need to be SET APART from this world, and to Our Holy Father in Heaven.


So Thank You Zazzummin. May You find the Truth my friend.
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No problem on the bump. I can bump you all day and no else will join that solar religion you're pushing.
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You are all being mind controlled


Good Luck with that Zazzummin...and thanks for the bump.

I want to reach as many believers as I can this week; to remind them that they need to be SET APART from this world, and to Our Holy Father in Heaven.


So Thank You Zazzummin. May You find the Truth my friend.

No problem on the bump. I can bump you all day and no else will join that solar religion you're pushing.
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Funny you say that Zazzummin, I denounce all SUN worship...which is lucifer worship...I serve The ONE true G-d of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob...That ONE TRUE G-d is Adonai. My heart belongs to Him, in such a huge way.

Praise to Yah!


and on a personal note Zazzummin, Shatan...Satan mimicks G-d in such a way as to lead you away from Him (Adonai), what you speak of is a counterfeit, you are being deceived my friend.

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Those of us here, for the most part, who are of the Body of Christ, are humble, compassionate, empathetic, and repentant. We actually care about you, so much so, that we'll take your verbal barrages to spread the Gospel
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Are you now? Well anyone who cares about me needn't bother.Humble-Hilarious, thinking your fairy story trumps any other belief, dumb and arrogant... Empathic-That's a laugh...Repent what? The fact that you are a bunch of primitives? Boasting of humility,compassion etc. Wonderfully arrogant....Keep up the good work. s226
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Those of us here, for the most part, who are of the Body of Christ, are humble, compassionate, empathetic, and repentant. We actually care about you, so much so, that we'll take your verbal barrages to spread the Gospel

Are you now? Well anyone who cares about me needn't bother.Humble-Hilarious, thinking your fairy story trumps any other belief, dumb and arrogant... Empathic-That's a laugh...Repent what? The fact that you are a bunch of primitives? Boasting of humility,compassion etc. Wonderfully arrogant....Keep up the good work. s226
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WE love you Sir Marmaduke.

And I care about You.

Father, bless Sir 'Duke.


Amen
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Leviticus was written for the Levites -- a priestly caste. OP, you are truly ignorant.
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Leviticus was written for the Levites -- a priestly caste. OP, you are truly ignorant.
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Goodnight 756, peace be with you in the name of Adonai.
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No problem on the bump. I can bump you all day and no else will join that solar religion you're pushing.
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And again, I am not trying to get anyone to "join." I am calling on those who believe, who need a strong reminder of what we are called out of, and called into.
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Good Morning OP I love Adonai as well, with all my heart and am a sincere seeker,, greatly flawed but sincere and repentant.

If only these who hate the author of all that is good and righteous could see how greatly they have misplaced their hate.. What a wonderful day that would be.
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Good Morning OP I love Adonai as well, with all my heart and am a sincere seeker,, greatly flawed but sincere and repentant.

If only these who hate the author of all that is good and righteous could see how greatly they have misplaced their hate.. What a wonderful day that would be.
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So True Dee. Thanks and blessings to you.
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If only these who hate the author of all that is good and righteous could see how greatly they have misplaced their hate.. What a wonderful day that would be.
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They will certainly see one day, let us pray it's not too late.
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Since you are turning to the old testament for truth let's do what it says and go kill some gays. You're with me OP aren't you?


Well, while you are spouting off, you don't even need the OT for that...if you are a homosexual, stop! Turn and be Holy.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 says this:

Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

You will be joining me in stoning them as the Most Holy God has commanded us right? Don't get week on me now my Christian brother.


Well, we would need a Torah Court of Law (in which there is none in existance today) and two witnesses in order to enforce this Levitical Law and execute it's sentence...So, we may not stone anyone. You go right ahead. I'll follow my Fathers law.

You will need a false Christian who doesn't know his scripture in order to trap them into your game my friend. ;)

Nice Try...
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lmao Christians that know scripture!!! I'm a former Christian and I can tell you that they don't. Anyone who reads the Bible and still has a functioning mind can see what an insane convoluted mess of a book the Bible is. Why anyone would worship the evil psychopathic monster in the Old Testament is beyond me.
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Freedom from the evil world system is a simple matter. Please listen to the audio file at the link provided at the bottom of this post. I have listened to it a few times now...and it shakes me to the core every time...very powerful.


HOLINESS!


Set yourself apart from the world...why?


Because your Father asked you to.



Leviticus 11:44



44For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.



Leviticus 11:45


45For I am the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy.


Leviticus 19:2



2Speak unto all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say unto them, Ye shall be holy: for I the LORD your God am holy.


Leviticus 20:7


7Sanctify yourselves therefore, and be ye holy: for I am the LORD your God.


1 Peter 1:16

16Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.


[link to www.ldrn.org]
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nice and all but try deciphering these verses into modern day English in order to make your point a little clearer.
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lmao Christians that know scripture!!! I'm a former Christian and I can tell you that they don't. Anyone who reads the Bible and still has a functioning mind can see what an insane convoluted mess of a book the Bible is. Why anyone would worship the evil psychopathic monster in the Old Testament is beyond me.
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You have to do or the evil psychopatic monster will eat you, preferably with some salt if you are still a virgin and waiting for the wedding.
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Freedom from the evil world system is a simple matter. Please listen to the audio file at the link provided at the bottom of this post. I have listened to it a few times now...and it shakes me to the core every time...very powerful.


HOLINESS!


Set yourself apart from the world...why?


Because your Father asked you to.



Leviticus 11:44



44For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.



Leviticus 11:45


45For I am the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy.


Leviticus 19:2



2Speak unto all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say unto them, Ye shall be holy: for I the LORD your God am holy.


Leviticus 20:7


7Sanctify yourselves therefore, and be ye holy: for I am the LORD your God.


1 Peter 1:16

16Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.


[link to www.ldrn.org]



nice and all but try deciphering these verses into modern day English in order to make your point a little clearer.
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lol, yeah like "HOLINESS"! Convert that into, "really cool dude that never cusses, lies, cheats or harms anything."
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Freedom from the evil world system is a simple matter. Please listen to the audio file at the link provided at the bottom of this post. I have listened to it a few times now...and it shakes me to the core every time...very powerful.


HOLINESS!


Set yourself apart from the world...why?


Because your Father asked you to.



Leviticus 11:44



44For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.



Leviticus 11:45


45For I am the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy.


Leviticus 19:2



2Speak unto all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say unto them, Ye shall be holy: for I the LORD your God am holy.


Leviticus 20:7


7Sanctify yourselves therefore, and be ye holy: for I am the LORD your God.


1 Peter 1:16

16Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.


[link to www.ldrn.org]



nice and all but try deciphering these verses into modern day English in order to make your point a little clearer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1107716


Okay...BE HOLY!

That wasn't that hard...

The problems arise when you don't study scripture...and want to know what Holiness truly is...and you want someone to spoon feed you the truth...can't happen.

Get the chips off your shoulders, pray to G-d for Guidance, and get into the word.

Then you might understand.
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This thread is not to debate...it is for the TRUE BELIEVERS in Christ. There is plenty of bickery about christianiy on this site...this is not the thread for that.


So, Bretheren, don't feed the trolls. They always try to pollute these threads with folly...don't bite.

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Christians that know scripture!!! I'm a former Christian and I can tell you that they don't.
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OH, I know...I agree with you. But this one does. That's what this thread is about. Calling Believers out!

Thanks so much for your help!
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Thank you for your contribution Nobody In Particular.

hf
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Thanks!!
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Thanks!!
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Gladly.
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How does one go about removing one's self from the world?

Are we to go all Ted Kazcinsky (sp) and live in a shed in the wilderness? Isn't the internet "The world"

I recall a book or two in the OT penned by a prophet who was living in times so convoluted that the population was essentially Godless, and even the author was just trying to do what he thought was right (which means there was probably a great deal of error.)

I see us as living in those types of times. It's a wonder any of us still believe in God, yearn for Christ's return and to recieve whatever help we can get in getting our collective monkies off our backs.

We are saturated in Sin and sin 17 times before breakfast. How do we get out of this mess? I'm talking beyond accepting Christ here...Assume that's done already.

Thank you, OP.
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How does one go about removing one's self from the world?

Are we to go all Ted Kazcinsky (sp) and live in a shed in the wilderness? Isn't the internet "The world"

I recall a book or two in the OT penned by a prophet who was living in times so convoluted that the population was essentially Godless, and even the author was just trying to do what he thought was right (which means there was probably a great deal of error.)

I see us as living in those types of times. It's a wonder any of us still believe in God, yearn for Christ's return and to recieve whatever help we can get in getting our collective monkies off our backs.

We are saturated in Sin and sin 17 times before breakfast. How do we get out of this mess? I'm talking beyond accepting Christ here...Assume that's done already.

Thank you, OP.
 Quoting: Greg_B.



God The Father Delivers you "from the world" when you decide you can Trust HIM Completely and surrender your life and will Unto HIM.

Ezekiel 36:26-27 Testifies and Gives Witness of what being Born-Again actually is and how it transforms your life:
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.


Carnality is worldliness, the natural-man; that condition of stone heart which all of us live our lives in UNTIL we decide God IS the only one we can Trust Fully and then give HIM our lives to do with as HE Sees Fit.


Only God can remove your carnal-heart.
Only your surrender allows HIM to do it.

Being In-HIS Accord is Witnessed of by Christ Jesus in John ch 17, and St. John in his First Epistle ch 2:20-27.



If you would be HIS, you have to tell HIM so.
There is no way to holiness or being "holy" other than By The Father.

Jesus Witnesses "...No man cometh Unto The Father but By ME".

Doesn't matter how "perfect" or "holy" you try to live your life. Until you decide you can Trust God Completely, you cannot be Born-Again. Until you make your surrender in total earnest sincerity and honesty you will not be Born-Again. All a matter of your heart. You cannot "fix" your carnal-condition, only God can/will Do That.


Nothing else matters in this life but your decision to manifest your heart and life Unto The Father. Can you Trust HIM Fully to do right by you in all things and at all times? Then it is time to Tell HIM So. My witness is that you should not hesitate, but do it now...

Acknowledge Christ Jesus,
Admit & Repent of your sins,
Claim your share of Father's infinite Grace & Mercy,
Give Father your life; all of it, the good & the bad and tell him you want to Know HIS Will and Do It forever,
Ask HIM to Send you HIS Holy Spirit to Guide your life.

He Will, if you are sincere.

Maranatha!!!
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How does one go about removing one's self from the world?

Are we to go all Ted Kazcinsky (sp) and live in a shed in the wilderness? Isn't the internet "The world"

I recall a book or two in the OT penned by a prophet who was living in times so convoluted that the population was essentially Godless, and even the author was just trying to do what he thought was right (which means there was probably a great deal of error.)

I see us as living in those types of times. It's a wonder any of us still believe in God, yearn for Christ's return and to recieve whatever help we can get in getting our collective monkies off our backs.

We are saturated in Sin and sin 17 times before breakfast. How do we get out of this mess? I'm talking beyond accepting Christ here...Assume that's done already.

Thank you, OP.



God The Father Delivers you "from the world" when you decide you can Trust HIM Completely and surrender your life and will Unto HIM.

Ezekiel 36:26-27 Testifies and Gives Witness of what being Born-Again actually is and how it transforms your life:
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.


Carnality is worldliness, the natural-man; that condition of stone heart which all of us live our lives in UNTIL we decide God IS the only one we can Trust Fully and then give HIM our lives to do with as HE Sees Fit.


Only God can remove your carnal-heart.
Only your surrender allows HIM to do it.

Being In-HIS Accord is Witnessed of by Christ Jesus in John ch 17, and St. John in his First Epistle ch 2:20-27.



If you would be HIS, you have to tell HIM so.
There is no way to holiness or being "holy" other than By The Father.

Jesus Witnesses "...No man cometh Unto The Father but By ME".

Doesn't matter how "perfect" or "holy" you try to live your life. Until you decide you can Trust God Completely, you cannot be Born-Again. Until you make your surrender in total earnest sincerity and honesty you will not be Born-Again. All a matter of your heart. You cannot "fix" your carnal-condition, only God can/will Do That.


Nothing else matters in this life but your decision to manifest your heart and life Unto The Father. Can you Trust HIM Fully to do right by you in all things and at all times? Then it is time to Tell HIM So. My witness is that you should not hesitate, but do it now...

Acknowledge Christ Jesus,
Admit & Repent of your sins,
Claim your share of Father's infinite Grace & Mercy,
Give Father your life; all of it, the good & the bad and tell him you want to Know HIS Will and Do It forever,
Ask HIM to Send you HIS Holy Spirit to Guide your life.

He Will, if you are sincere.

Maranatha!!!
 Quoting: Lester


Thanks for the great Post Lester.

You have wisdom. But I would like to add...our effort at Holiness, (true effort, at true holiness), is noticed by Our Father. We should strive without ceasing!

Of course, it is His call we are responding to.

To Follow Messiah, or to Go to the Father through Messiah, means to imitate his example to the best of our abilities. Our imitation will never be perfect, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't do our best...Holiness. This is how we show our trust and belief...

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