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DanfromtheHills
User ID: 945238 United States 09/12/2010 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Better to die on our feet then live on our knees. Quoting: rken"I'll to the throng, and let life be short, our shame will be too long." You say that now, but when you and your loved ones are starving with no place to sleep, you will gladly bend a knee. Remeber these words said today. One day you will eat yours. Man lived off the land for a very long time before the NWO reared it's head. They, and modern civilization, aren't a necessity. Yes it is possible for a few individuals to live off the land. do your really think they are going to allow you to do that. Probably. If it is as you say, only a handful of people, why would they care? "Nothing to see here, go back to sheep..." --- AC 1251379 |
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rken
(OP) User ID: 1071003 Thailand 09/12/2010 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Welcome to the NWO the more you resist the harder they will make it on you. Do you understand. They are saying this in public on public forums. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1096337No shit, Welcome. (The rest of you) Im not sure you are smart enough for the NEW WORLD ORDER. HELLENISM WILL REIN care to elaborate |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 961432 United States 09/12/2010 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any central planning authority resides upon the premise that they can "manage" the distribution and allocation of labor and resources. Profit from exchange of labor and resources is absorbed by the inner core of central planners they either use it to feather their nest or strengthen their control over the eCONonomy. So the profit from the system goes into overhead simply stated. In a capitalistic system a far greater percentage of profit goes back into increasing production capability simply for the reason of competition, aggregated wealth runs the risk in a capitalistic system of losing their edge so aggregated wealth is forced to maintain their dominance or market edge by empowering the productive capacity of each worker, and each worker feels a greater amount of individual effort and reward towards maintaining the edge. History has shown that central planning systems consume too much of the profit or gain from the system and that individual members who are the producers are less inclined to work towards the goal of the system which is labeled as the common good. This is the ideal of collectivism or the rights and needs of the collective outweigh the rights and needs of the sovereign individual. The individual worker or participant slows down their effort or productivity placing a larger and larger burden on the collective for growth. Ultimately this factor slows the entire system down to a point of non functioning, the system dies since it lacks the desire of the individual to keep the system functioning. However with free choice the individual is willing to place greater and greater effort knowing they benefit from their increased labor and the fact that they will be allowed to keep a greater share of their increased effort. What the NWO really is, is the idea of collectivity or humanism or the idea that the rights and needs of the collective outweigh the rights and needs of the individual. It's main attraction is the idea that imprudence of a persons moral choices can be absorbed by the collective thus lessening the burden or reaping of an individual's imprudent choices. However, the greatest acts of imprudence made by an individual is greed meaning they want to keep more and more of what they produce. A collectivist system hinders the basic human imprudence of greed although it supposedly offers relief of the other imprudent acts an individual may choose. In the end the imprudence of greed wins out as individual's desire to keep what they produce. A capitalistic system works with an individual's greed allowing them to keep the fruits of their labor and within the confines of the system is labeled a virtue. Thus a capitalistic system is the lesser of two evils within the context of a working, productive society and growth is the basic building block of sustainability for any system that involves labor and trade. QED a capitalistic system functioning on the basis of free choices is superior to a collectivist system in terms of growth and sustainability for a system of human interaction using labor and exchange. The NWO may con the world into accepting it's creation and short term dominance but in the long run is unsustainable in terms of human greed which is ubiquitous and impossible to eliminate from the system of human interaction. |
mjrichardson1975
User ID: 1087186 United States 09/12/2010 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Revolution (actual physical revolution) is the only way to reverse it now. Quick history re-cap: The American fore-fathers began the AR with a few HUNDRED "peasants" and fought the biggest power on earth at the time which inevitably forged a Nation ! Well, now the enemy ISN'T another nation! ITS JUST A GROUP OF PEOPLE WITH A BUTTLOAD OF MONEY! Its ideologies that are superficial and actually hide the true initiatives of the elite! ITS ABOUT MONEY!!! ITS ABOUT POWER!!! The questions to ask ourselves, is will our brothers and sisters in the US armed forces kill their own brothers and sisters on American soil? If the UN is deployed here, will more American citizens stand up and fight? And will Americans choose tyranny or fight to RECLAIM the liberty we've ALREADY lost???? 2/3 of the American colonists were AGAINST a war with England!!!!! THANK GOD for the 1/3 that stood up FOR the pacifists!!!!!! I don't know whats going to happen in 2012...not a clue as to whether or not there will actually ever be a nuclear war... will yellowstone erupt in my lifetime... aliens real??? But I do know this, if you don't stand for something, you fall for anything. |
mjrichardson1975
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1096337 United States 09/12/2010 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Works for me, just give me healthy food, unfluoridated water, no forced vaccines or drugs, and I'll happily join their nwo! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 872298Very good then. Worship what directly efects you and keep it beautiful. The old world has had people as fare removed from the hear and now as posible for way to long. I.E. outer space, under ground, in the future, other dementions, IN YOUR HEAD. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1095307 United States 09/12/2010 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would seem that we have come to a point, we either accept the NWO or get punished with more pain, loss of jobs, food shortages, higher taxes and finally interment, unless we submit. what say you. Quoting: rkenI said in the last presidential election that a vote for Obama was a vote for the NWO. Looks like that is coming true. So whats it going to be acceptance or more pain. Oh and did I mention billions dying. False choice. The true answer is they have to go. They accuse us of pollution > they make sure only technology available is polluting. They say there's not enough food > they pay American farmers not to plant and most probably other nations. They claim we cant get along > they incite racism and hatred every fifteen minutes on the tube. Ad F-ing nauseum, Every problem they claim is ours is created by them, F*! we had electric cars before gas cars. Today all products are made in a foreign country, so they can again sell more oil to transport the crap instead of paying a man a decent wage. Its all about them and their damned oil. They must go. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1096337 United States 09/12/2010 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any central planning authority resides upon the premise that they can "manage" the distribution and allocation of labor and resources. Profit from exchange of labor and resources is absorbed by the inner core of central planners they either use it to feather their nest or strengthen their control over the eCONonomy. So the profit from the system goes into overhead simply stated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 961432In a capitalistic system a far greater percentage of profit goes back into increasing production capability simply for the reason of competition, aggregated wealth runs the risk in a capitalistic system of losing their edge so aggregated wealth is forced to maintain their dominance or market edge by empowering the productive capacity of each worker, and each worker feels a greater amount of individual effort and reward towards maintaining the edge. History has shown that central planning systems consume too much of the profit or gain from the system and that individual members who are the producers are less inclined to work towards the goal of the system which is labeled as the common good. This is the ideal of collectivism or the rights and needs of the collective outweigh the rights and needs of the sovereign individual. The individual worker or participant slows down their effort or productivity placing a larger and larger burden on the collective for growth. Ultimately this factor slows the entire system down to a point of non functioning, the system dies since it lacks the desire of the individual to keep the system functioning. However with free choice the individual is willing to place greater and greater effort knowing they benefit from their increased labor and the fact that they will be allowed to keep a greater share of their increased effort. What the NWO really is, is the idea of collectivity or humanism or the idea that the rights and needs of the collective outweigh the rights and needs of the individual. It's main attraction is the idea that imprudence of a persons moral choices can be absorbed by the collective thus lessening the burden or reaping of an individual's imprudent choices. However, the greatest acts of imprudence made by an individual is greed meaning they want to keep more and more of what they produce. A collectivist system hinders the basic human imprudence of greed although it supposedly offers relief of the other imprudent acts an individual may choose. In the end the imprudence of greed wins out as individual's desire to keep what they produce. A capitalistic system works with an individual's greed allowing them to keep the fruits of their labor and within the confines of the system is labeled a virtue. Thus a capitalistic system is the lesser of two evils within the context of a working, productive society and growth is the basic building block of sustainability for any system that involves labor and trade. QED a capitalistic system functioning on the basis of free choices is superior to a collectivist system in terms of growth and sustainability for a system of human interaction using labor and exchange. The NWO may con the world into accepting it's creation and short term dominance but in the long run is unsustainable in terms of human greed which is ubiquitous and impossible to eliminate from the system of human interaction. Key words; NEW=new, WORLD=everyone, ORDER= A condition of logical or comprehensible arrangement ammoung separate elements. |
rken
(OP) User ID: 1071003 Thailand 09/12/2010 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would seem that we have come to a point, we either accept the NWO or get punished with more pain, loss of jobs, food shortages, higher taxes and finally interment, unless we submit. what say you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1095307I said in the last presidential election that a vote for Obama was a vote for the NWO. Looks like that is coming true. So whats it going to be acceptance or more pain. Oh and did I mention billions dying. False choice. The true answer is they have to go. They accuse us of pollution > they make sure only technology available is polluting. They say there's not enough food > they pay American farmers not to plant and most probably other nations. They claim we cant get along > they incite racism and hatred every fifteen minutes on the tube. Ad F-ing nauseum, Every problem they claim is ours is created by them, F*! we had electric cars before gas cars. Today all products are made in a foreign country, so they can again sell more oil to transport the crap instead of paying a man a decent wage. Its all about them and their damned oil. They must go. Nicely put I agree. But what are you going to do about it. All I hear is talk, while we move further and further down the road to the NWO's agenda. some like phoenix 2012 on GLP chat this morning went so far as to say you are aready a member. He's a mod on this site. I'd say thats pretty in your face. Not even the MSM is that brazen. |
rken
(OP) User ID: 1071003 Thailand 09/12/2010 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | look.... if we become passifist and adopt the whole "i can't change anything anyways" mentality, then yes, we are the nwo and might as well sit back patiently and wait for death. Look at the agenda for what it is. The worlds elite have already been in power for over 100 years. The poorest peoples on earth are their alleys because the elite need peasants. the middle classes get in their way. Quoting: mjrichardson1975Revolution (actual physical revolution) is the only way to reverse it now. Quick history re-cap: The American fore-fathers began the AR with a few HUNDRED "peasants" and fought the biggest power on earth at the time which inevitably forged a Nation ! Well, now the enemy ISN'T another nation! ITS JUST A GROUP OF PEOPLE WITH A BUTTLOAD OF MONEY! Its ideologies that are superficial and actually hide the true initiatives of the elite! ITS ABOUT MONEY!!! ITS ABOUT POWER!!! The questions to ask ourselves, is will our brothers and sisters in the US armed forces kill their own brothers and sisters on American soil? If the UN is deployed here, will more American citizens stand up and fight? And will Americans choose tyranny or fight to RECLAIM the liberty we've ALREADY lost???? 2/3 of the American colonists were AGAINST a war with England!!!!! THANK GOD for the 1/3 that stood up FOR the pacifists!!!!!! I don't know whats going to happen in 2012...not a clue as to whether or not there will actually ever be a nuclear war... will yellowstone erupt in my lifetime... aliens real??? But I do know this, if you don't stand for something, you fall for anything. Yes those are the feelings there trying to instill. It was pretty evident from voice chat this morning with Pheonix. But I don't see anyone stepping up. Already on this thread people have said just give me food and water and place to sleep and I'll join. Do you see what its coming to. What happens when more people are out of work, prices go up, more people lose their houses. They created the crises and then like knights on white horses ride in to save the day and people will say how wonderful they are. lol |
rken
(OP) User ID: 1071003 Thailand 09/12/2010 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is Rome that should be feared. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1096337Are you a mason ? Not a mason. but you could be quite right about Rome. Hard to tell who holds the reigns of power these days. Lots of speculation though. |
rken
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NetRanger
User ID: 1088754 United States 09/12/2010 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Better to die on our feet then live on our knees. Quoting: rken"I'll to the throng, and let life be short, our shame will be too long." You say that now, but when you and your loved ones are starving with no place to sleep, you will gladly bend a knee. Remeber these words said today. One day you will eat yours. It is why we prep and purchase resources that cannot be taken away without a fight and we purchase the tools to fight. Those who say "Come and Take It" and then just sit idly by and don't prepare are fools. I see a lot of fools. However, it is much wiser to say "I have nothing." then if they still break in to steal, they are ambushed by surprise. Do not provoke them with "Come and Take It!". You are fools. Dirty your faces and your hands and beg for cheese. Appear just like the sheople then go back to your homes and grow your food and eat like kings. If they come to take it, ambush them. Big talk will cause you big pain. 100% Unmodified DNA (mRNAless!) "Communism/Socialism/Democracy makes and delivers promises! ...but only to the elites that force it upon you." -NetRanger (2012) "Government is the Anti-Midas. Everything they touch turns to complete crap." -NetRanger (2005) [link to www.aefad.us] |
paregoric User ID: 1096392 United States 09/12/2010 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would seem that we have come to a point, we either accept the NWO or get punished with more pain, loss of jobs, food shortages, higher taxes and finally interment, unless we submit. what say you. Quoting: rkenI said in the last presidential election that a vote for Obama was a vote for the NWO. Looks like that is coming true. So whats it going to be acceptance or more pain. Oh and did I mention billions dying. Hello, The New World Order is just a glut of insane, 3rd-World-mentality, Christless, thieving, lying, murdering, lust-crazed, savage, terrorizing street-thugs taking over your property, children and life, whohave absolutely no credibility whatsoever, except for that which the lemmings generously give to them. Lawlessness will be the order of the day. "Food shortage"? Ha, youwill be eating your children; howis that for "pain"? ". . . and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one" according to Jesus in Luke 22:36 A two-edged "sword", today would be an AK47, a "slingshot", a handgun. "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government . . . The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms..." - Alexander Hamilton, Federalist #28. Truth will set you free John 8:32 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 721094 Canada 09/12/2010 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would seem that we have come to a point, we either accept the NWO or get punished with more pain, loss of jobs, food shortages, higher taxes and finally interment, unless we submit. what say you. Quoting: rkenI said in the last presidential election that a vote for Obama was a vote for the NWO. Looks like that is coming true. So whats it going to be acceptance or more pain. Oh and did I mention billions dying. DUDE a vote for ANYBODY is a vote for the NWO because only the thugs put these folks to run in the first place. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1093911 United States 09/13/2010 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When dealing with the Muppets that be, it is always a good idea to keep in mind that nothing is what it seems. Think in terms of multi-dimensional chess, and keep in mind that they have been playing the game for a long time. The amusing thing is that there are many more dimensions to the game than they anticipated. Quoting: KhalenI agree. OP are you shilling us as your thoughts just do not kick it?? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1061719 Thailand 09/13/2010 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When dealing with the Muppets that be, it is always a good idea to keep in mind that nothing is what it seems. Think in terms of multi-dimensional chess, and keep in mind that they have been playing the game for a long time. The amusing thing is that there are many more dimensions to the game than they anticipated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1093911I agree. OP are you shilling us as your thoughts just do not kick it?? Sorry I don't understand my thoughts do not kick it. Not trying to shill anyone. Just interested in discussion regards current situation in the US in regards to NWO |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1061719 Thailand 09/13/2010 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not a mason. but you could be quite right about Rome. Hard to tell who holds the reigns of power these days. Lots of speculation though. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1097406So who runs the gambleing ? Old World ? or New World ? What are you then if not a mason ? Is there a difference... I belong to no organization nor am I affiliated with any churches. Just me. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1061719 Thailand 09/13/2010 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes I believe you do belong to an organization and there is a huge difference. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1097406Now, why don't you just tell us what you want to know in 10 words or less. Why would you believe such a thing. If you really want to know what I want to know. Everything that I want to know, when I want to know it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1002107 United States 09/13/2010 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, you can't really believe that there is any difference in agenda between the two parties. Quoting: rkenNo I don't but in the psyche of the american people there seemed to be a choice between resisting the NWO or going along with it. a vote for obama was going along with it. While McCain represented a vote against it. Same result either way. one way just a little more painful I hoped you weren't that naive |