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(OP) User ID: 1072693 United States 09/07/2010 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Were the Crusades justified wars of Christian self-defense against centuries of Muslim aggression? Islam is well known in the Western World as the religion of lies. Almost anything they say is a lie, yet many people actually believe their nonsense. The Islamic propaganda spiel that we have been fed for the past fifty years is that the Islamic people were at peace with the world when the warlike Christians attacked them in their traditional homelands. Total bullshit, as always from Islam. 1st Place in Novel Sales for 6 yrs! [link to www.mobipocket.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 975792 United States 09/07/2010 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Were the Crusades justified wars of Christian self-defense against centuries of Muslim aggression? He is trying to get other Muslims to get out of Islam and read the Bible. Proof ISLAMIC god Satan are ONE!!! [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1034753 United Kingdom 09/07/2010 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Were the Crusades justified wars of Christian self-defense against centuries of Muslim aggression? Islam is well known in the Western World as the religion of lies. Almost anything they say is a lie, yet many people actually believe their nonsense. Quoting: JoeNeubarthThe Islamic propaganda spiel that we have been fed for the past fifty years is that the Islamic people were at peace with the world when the warlike Christians attacked them in their traditional homelands. Total bullshit, as always from Islam. The NWO has been totally behind this whitewshing of history - to pave the way for the multicultural invasion of the West - in order to set the stage for its collapse via civil-war. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 754098 United States 09/07/2010 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Were the Crusades justified wars of Christian self-defense against centuries of Muslim aggression? Islam is well known in the Western World as the religion of lies. Quoting: JoeNeubarthTheir god boasts about being the greatest liar. It's in their book. Now what did the bible say who the "Father of lies" is? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1092319 United States 09/07/2010 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Were the Crusades justified wars of Christian self-defense against centuries of Muslim aggression? Were the Crusades justified wars of Christian self-defense against centuries of Muslim aggression? Quoting: JoeNeubarthBy 300 AD Christianity had spread from Greece eastward to Persia ) where it went up against Zoroastrianism)and even to spots in India (Where it confronted the Hindus). Sounds like some crusading is in order. Just Nuke the Kabba and the whole silly religion crumbles. No Kabba no Islam, simple. |
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Amused User ID: 483168 United Arab Emirates 09/07/2010 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Were the Crusades justified wars of Christian self-defense against centuries of Muslim aggression? Were the Crusades justified wars of Christian self-defense against centuries of Muslim aggression? Quoting: JoeNeubarthBy 300 AD Christianity had spread from Greece eastward to Persia ) where it went up against Zoroastrianism)and even to spots in India (Where it confronted the Hindus). West of Persia and north of Dark Africa all of the lands were Christian except for the Arabian Peninsula which was a land of many gods and hundreds of thousands of Jews who had escaped from Roman persecution As you probably know, Muhammad got his religion going about 625 AD and died of poisoning (it is reported) a few years later in 632. (Supposedly one of his Jewish captive wives poisoned him. Damn good woman!) At the time of his death, Islam was growing in Arabia. After Mohammad's death it was advanced on the bloody blades of many swords. As the religion advanced people were given a choice, convert from Christianity and Judaism or be beheaded. In the 400 years after Muhammad, Islam swept into the holy land, Syria and advanced east on Persia where the Zoroastrians fled to India to avoid being beheaded. Twenty percent of Persia was Jewish from the lost tribes of Israel relocating there. Most of them were killed by Islam over the next thousand years. (An estimated Nine to Ten Million Jews were murdered.) Islam swept across north Africa and poured into Spain in the Eighth Century and even advanced into southern France before being beaten back by Germanic soldiers. The Islamic conquest and rule of Sicily, Malta, and small parts of southern Italy was a process which started in the 9th century. Islamic rule over Sicily was effective from 902, and the complete rule of the island lasted from 965 until 1061. In 1063, Pope Alexander II had given his blessing to Iberian (Spanish and Portuguese) Christians in their continuing wars against the Muslims. The Germanic Normans drove the Islamic hordes out of Sicily a few years later. As you can see, there was constant conflict between the Christians and Islam. The immediate cause of the First Crusade was the Byzantine emperor Alexios I's appeal to Pope Urban II for mercenaries to help him resist Muslim advances into territory of the Byzantine Empire. In 1071, at the Battle of Manzikert, the Byzantine Empire was defeated, which led to the loss of all of Asia Minor (modern Turkey) save the coastlands. The Christians did not suddenly attack the Religion of Peace. The so-called Religion of Peace had not left the Christians alone for 400 years and were attacking or fighting in Eastern Europe and Western Europe and Southern Europe. Another factor that contributed to the change in Western attitudes towards the East came in the year 1009, when the Fatimid Islamic Caliph al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah ordered the destruction of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. Up to that time Christians were allowed to visit the holy land. In 1039 his successor, after requiring large sums be paid for the right, permitted the Byzantine Empire to rebuild it. Pilgrimages were allowed to the Holy Lands immediately before and after the Sepulchre was rebuilt, but for a time pilgrims were captured and some of the clergy were killed for their faith in Christ. When the First Crusade was preached in 1095, the Christian princes of northern Iberia had been fighting their way out of the mountains of Galicia and Asturias, the Basque Country and Navarre. Everybody was just plain fed up with Islam, and finally struck back. Do you take the Moslem view that they were unfairly attacked? Or do you think that it was damn well about time? Wow! Impressive. It took you one post to show your utter lack of intelligence, skewed ill-gotten reasoning based on not just flawed but false research. Well done. I'm sure it must be wonderfully comfortable to live in your biased little bubble filled with all the hot air rising from the bullshit you spew on a regular basis....all this for the sake of feeling superior. Likely for us, you are utterly irrelevant. but nice try... |
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User ID: 714968 United Kingdom 09/07/2010 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Were the Crusades justified wars of Christian self-defense against centuries of Muslim aggression? In honor of all the Americans who died in the early middle ages.. Last Edited by [•REC] on 09/07/2010 03:41 PM When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth. Repent! The End Is Extremely F***ing Nigh. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1092299 United States 09/07/2010 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Were the Crusades justified wars of Christian self-defense against centuries of Muslim aggression? Were the Crusades justified wars of Christian self-defense against centuries of Muslim aggression? Quoting: JoeNeubarthBy 300 AD Christianity had spread from Greece eastward to Persia ) where it went up against Zoroastrianism)and even to spots in India (Where it confronted the Hindus). West of Persia and north of Dark Africa all of the lands were Christian except for the Arabian Peninsula which was a land of many gods and hundreds of thousands of Jews who had escaped from Roman persecution As you probably know, Muhammad got his religion going about 625 AD and died of poisoning (it is reported) a few years later in 632. (Supposedly one of his Jewish captive wives poisoned him. Damn good woman!) At the time of his death, Islam was growing in Arabia. After Mohammad's death it was advanced on the bloody blades of many swords. As the religion advanced people were given a choice, convert from Christianity and Judaism or be beheaded. In the 400 years after Muhammad, Islam swept into the holy land, Syria and advanced east on Persia where the Zoroastrians fled to India to avoid being beheaded. Twenty percent of Persia was Jewish from the lost tribes of Israel relocating there. Most of them were killed by Islam over the next thousand years. (An estimated Nine to Ten Million Jews were murdered.) Islam swept across north Africa and poured into Spain in the Eighth Century and even advanced into southern France before being beaten back by Germanic soldiers. The Islamic conquest and rule of Sicily, Malta, and small parts of southern Italy was a process which started in the 9th century. Islamic rule over Sicily was effective from 902, and the complete rule of the island lasted from 965 until 1061. In 1063, Pope Alexander II had given his blessing to Iberian (Spanish and Portuguese) Christians in their continuing wars against the Muslims. The Germanic Normans drove the Islamic hordes out of Sicily a few years later. As you can see, there was constant conflict between the Christians and Islam. The immediate cause of the First Crusade was the Byzantine emperor Alexios I's appeal to Pope Urban II for mercenaries to help him resist Muslim advances into territory of the Byzantine Empire. In 1071, at the Battle of Manzikert, the Byzantine Empire was defeated, which led to the loss of all of Asia Minor (modern Turkey) save the coastlands. The Christians did not suddenly attack the Religion of Peace. The so-called Religion of Peace had not left the Christians alone for 400 years and were attacking or fighting in Eastern Europe and Western Europe and Southern Europe. Another factor that contributed to the change in Western attitudes towards the East came in the year 1009, when the Fatimid Islamic Caliph al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah ordered the destruction of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. Up to that time Christians were allowed to visit the holy land. In 1039 his successor, after requiring large sums be paid for the right, permitted the Byzantine Empire to rebuild it. Pilgrimages were allowed to the Holy Lands immediately before and after the Sepulchre was rebuilt, but for a time pilgrims were captured and some of the clergy were killed for their faith in Christ. When the First Crusade was preached in 1095, the Christian princes of northern Iberia had been fighting their way out of the mountains of Galicia and Asturias, the Basque Country and Navarre. Everybody was just plain fed up with Islam, and finally struck back. Do you take the Moslem view that they were unfairly attacked? Or do you think that it was damn well about time? why would think any person who wrote anything to be used to control you and other people to be true? or why would you follow people, who have riches and power not one of you will ever have? and you just take what ever book they hand you as the "truth", so they can use you for what ever they want? sadly , no one seem to see all this histry and written books as the WMD"s , with is what they are, "mind control weapons" from the past , so good , so well though out, that the rich have used them on some my people forever. but yes why would think anything but what they tell you to think, ever. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1092346 United States 09/07/2010 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Were the Crusades justified wars of Christian self-defense against centuries of Muslim aggression? Islam is well known in the Western World as the religion of lies. Almost anything they say is a lie, yet many people actually believe their nonsense. Quoting: JoeNeubarthThe Islamic propaganda spiel that we have been fed for the past fifty years is that the Islamic people were at peace with the world when the warlike Christians attacked them in their traditional homelands. Total bullshit, as always from Islam. All religions are lies. All. You just happen to believe one lie over another. Pity you. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1088526 United States 09/07/2010 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Were the Crusades justified wars of Christian self-defense against centuries of Muslim aggression? You crawl on your belly without legs, lowest of the low, using revisionist lies as propaganda to promote a "religious" agenda but it's transparent as cool mountain water you're simply a political fanatic. |
Ivanhoe User ID: 1018741 Netherlands 09/07/2010 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Were the Crusades justified wars of Christian self-defense against centuries of Muslim aggression? Robert Spencer - The Crusades, Fact & Truth (Part 1/5) [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 704060 United States 09/08/2010 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Were the Crusades justified wars of Christian self-defense against centuries of Muslim aggression? PARIS – A Muslim stonemason who spent nearly four decades helping to restore a Roman Catholic cathedral in France has been immortalized as a winged gargoyle peering out from its facade — with the inscription "God is great" written in French and Arabic. It was conceived as a symbol of inter-religious friendship that reflects the city of Lyon's links to its large Muslim population. But a widely publicized outcry from a small extreme-right group has forced the Archdiocese of Lyon into damage control. "This has nothing to do with religion. It's a sculptor who wants to pay homage to a construction site chief," said the Rev. Michel Cacaud, rector of the cathedral. "That's all." |
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