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Turkey Betrays Syria After Ferocious Threats By Israel To Breach The Ataturk Dam Complex.

 
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flo2janarose Shocked Middle Eastern diplomatic circles are only now recovering their composure after a stunning display of realpolitik by Israel last June. To get them in an negotiating mood they where rudely reminded of the consequences of backing the wrong side. As Turkey did during the First World War, which resulted in the dismantling of the Ottoman Empire.

Then Israel launched into the crux of the matter. Viz: Israel faces an existential threat from the vast numbers of missiles arrayed against it by Hezbollah in Lebanon, Syria, Iran, the Egyptians, and possibly Saudi Arabia and others.

THE STICK was (1) Israel has an abundance of weapons in the 5 to 20 kiloton range that could breach the Ataturk Dam with ease, along with the 20 others that form the Anatolia Project on the upper Euphrates, and there is nothing that Turkeys air defences can do to stop them.

In fact to underscore this point just a few weeks ago two small drone aircraft crashed into the concrete containment dome of Iran's Bushnel reactor just days before the loading of the fuel rods. This was passed off by the press as a test by Iran's Revolutionary Guards of the sites anti aircraft/missile defences, with no mention of any Israeli involvement. Israeli sources are confident that Turkey got the message loud and clear.

(2) The possibility of Israeli assistance to Greece in recovering Turkish occupied places in the Mediterranean, that are claimed by them at a later date was also mentioned.

(3) The threat to reduce Turkey to a rump state. If the Anatolia Project is destroyed that would merely be the beginning of Turkeys woe's. After annexing all of Syria, Lebanon and Jordon, Israel would also annex large swathes of southern Turkey. The Turkish - Kurds (Mountain Turks) would most likely take much of the area to the south and the west of Lake Van. Iran would probably go for some of it as well. Armenia has an old score to settle, and Georgia wouldn't want to be left out.

As for Russia they have long had their eye on Istanbul, the Sea of Marmara and a large swathe of northwestern Turkey. Along with the probability of many enclaves along Turkeys Black Sea coast.

But for them the real prize would be unrestricted access to the Mediterranean Sea. Obviously this is something that the USA and Europe do not want to see happen. And apparently there have been reports that Israel has had some success in the diplomatic arm wrestling that has been going on. IE: In terms of others making it clear to Turkey that it can expect no outside help, except for diplomatic hand wringing in this matter if they cross Israel.

Rev 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

THE DEMANDS where (1) Do nothing, except for diplomatic face saving sound and fury. Turn a blind eye to the occassional Israeli overflights of Turkish territory. Give no assistance to Syria and her allies whatsoever. No military intelligence, no food, fuel, weapons, munitions, men...nothing.

(2) It is uncertain, but it is rumored that there was a side deal in return for Turkey getting it's hands on the ten hi-tech Israeli UAV's recently. Which was that Israeli agents would be granted access to the heavily guarded Iranian war goods in transit via Turkey to Syria. With the understanding that nothing was to be sabotaged.

(3) Give up the dream of annexing the oilfields of Mosul and Kirkuk from the soon to be violently dismembered corpse of Iraq. These are earmarked to be a vital part of the new State of Kurdistan.

THE CARROTS (1) Except for a part of Syria's north eastern panhandle that is earmarked to be a part of Kurdistan, Israel would raise no objections to Turkey annexing most of Syria on the left bank of the Euphrates.

Gen 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates

(2) In compensation for giving up the dream of getting their hands of the Mousl and Kirkuk oil and gas fields. And also to solve the Turkoman question IE: Iraqis of Turkish ethnic origin who live in the Mosul area and along the Tigris river, and for whom there will be no place in the new Kurdistan, there is apparently an intense behind the scenes argument going on.

This centres over the division of the land between the right bank of the Tigris and the left bank of the Euphrates, that is now occupied by Sunni Muslims. These where the hated backbone of Saddam Hussein's regime. Probably Turkey will get a portion that includes some good oil and gas fields.

An area of promise is that the Kurds are said to be amicable to a long term trade pact with Turkey. This would give a big boost to Turkeys industrial base and go a long way towards reducing tensions arising from returning Turkish workers who have lost their well paying European jobs.

They could also look forward to a rich source of state revenues from a partnership in new oil and gas pipelines from Kurdistan to the Mediterranean that would be built mainly in the easy country of their new ex-Syrian and Iraqi provinces.

In many ways Israel would also benefit hugely from this, and it is understood that all parties are very keen to draw up secure and peaceful borders. Well at least until the Gog-Magog war anyway. But thats another story.

.................................flo11Psa 129:5 Let them all be confounded and turned back that hate Zion.rose

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Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
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Turkey has nothing to gain by screwing with Israel, and the Arabs will not be grateful, no matter how anti-Israeli Turkey gets.
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..After annexing all of Syria, Lebanon and Jordon, Israel would also annex large swathes of southern Turkey..
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Turkey has nothing to gain by screwing with Israel, and the Arabs will not be grateful, no matter how anti-Israeli Turkey gets.
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Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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Re: Turkey Betrays Syria After Ferocious Threats By Israel To Breach The Ataturk Dam Complex.
:flo2::jana:rose Shocked Middle Eastern diplomatic circles are only now recovering their composure after a stunning display of realpolitik by Israel last June. To get them in an negotiating mood they where rudely reminded of the consequences of backing the wrong side. As Turkey did during the First World War, which resulted in the dismantling of the Ottoman Empire.

Then Israel launched into the crux of the matter. Viz: Israel faces an existential threat from the vast numbers of missiles arrayed against it by Hezbollah in Lebanon, Syria, Iran, the Egyptians, and possibly Saudi Arabia and others.

THE STICK was (1) Israel has an abundance of weapons in the 5 to 20 kiloton range that could breach the Ataturk Dam with ease, along with the 20 others that form the Anatolia Project on the upper Euphrates, and there is nothing that Turkeys air defences can do to stop them.

In fact to underscore this point just a few weeks ago two small drone aircraft crashed into the concrete containment dome of Iran's Bushnel reactor just days before the loading of the fuel rods. This was passed off by the press as a test by Iran's Revolutionary Guards of the sites anti aircraft/missile defences, with no mention of any Israeli involvement. Israeli sources are confident that Turkey got the message loud and clear.

(2) The possibility of Israeli assistance to Greece in recovering Turkish occupied places in the Mediterranean, that are claimed by them at a later date was also mentioned.

(3) The threat to reduce Turkey to a rump state. If the Anatolia Project is destroyed that would merely be the beginning of Turkeys woe's. After annexing all of Syria, Lebanon and Jordon, Israel would also annex large swathes of southern Turkey. The Turkish - Kurds (Mountain Turks) would most likely take much of the area to the south and the west of Lake Van. Iran would probably go for some of it as well. Armenia has an old score to settle, and Georgia wouldn't want to be left out.

As for Russia they have long had their eye on Istanbul, the Sea of Marmara and a large swathe of northwestern Turkey. Along with the probability of many enclaves along Turkeys Black Sea coast.

But for them the real prize would be unrestricted access to the Mediterranean Sea. Obviously this is something that the USA and Europe do not want to see happen. And apparently there have been reports that Israel has had some success in the diplomatic arm wrestling that has been going on. IE: In terms of others making it clear to Turkey that it can expect no outside help, except for diplomatic hand wringing in this matter if they cross Israel.

Rev 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

THE DEMANDS where (1) Do nothing, except for diplomatic face saving sound and fury. Turn a blind eye to the occassional Israeli overflights of Turkish territory. Give no assistance to Syria and her allies whatsoever. No military intelligence, no food, fuel, weapons, munitions, men...nothing.

(2) It is uncertain, but it is rumored that there was a side deal in return for Turkey getting it's hands on the ten hi-tech Israeli UAV's recently. Which was that Israeli agents would be granted access to the heavily guarded Iranian war goods in transit via Turkey to Syria. With the understanding that nothing was to be sabotaged.

(3) Give up the dream of annexing the oilfields of Mosul and Kirkuk from the soon to be violently dismembered corpse of Iraq. These are earmarked to be a vital part of the new State of Kurdistan.

THE CARROTS (1) Except for a part of Syria's north eastern panhandle that is earmarked to be a part of Kurdistan, Israel would raise no objections to Turkey annexing most of Syria on the left bank of the Euphrates.

Gen 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates

(2) In compensation for giving up the dream of getting their hands of the Mousl and Kirkuk oil and gas fields. And also to solve the Turkoman question IE: Iraqis of Turkish ethnic origin who live in the Mosul area and along the Tigris river, and for whom there will be no place in the new Kurdistan, there is apparently an intense behind the scenes argument going on.

This centres over the division of the land between the right bank of the Tigris and the left bank of the Euphrates, that is now occupied by Sunni Muslims. These where the hated backbone of Saddam Hussein's regime. Probably Turkey will get a portion that includes some good oil and gas fields.

An area of promise is that the Kurds are said to be amicable to a long term trade pact with Turkey. This would give a big boost to Turkeys industrial base and go a long way towards reducing tensions arising from returning Turkish workers who have lost their well paying European jobs.

They could also look forward to a rich source of state revenues from a partnership in new oil and gas pipelines from Kurdistan to the Mediterranean that would be built mainly in the easy country of their new ex-Syrian and Iraqi provinces.

In many ways Israel would also benefit hugely from this, and it is understood that all parties are very keen to draw up secure and peaceful borders. Well at least until the Gog-Magog war anyway. But thats another story.

.................................:flo11:Psa 129:5 Let them all be confounded and turned back that hate Zion.rose

..................:idf6::kurdmap1::idf7:
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Re: Turkey Betrays Syria After Ferocious Threats By Israel To Breach The Ataturk Dam Complex.
interesting to watch the power players move the pawns about the chessboard.

I personally see the gog-Magog war as imminent, and Damascus being destroyed any day -- as prophesied

with that caveat I believe the war of Ezekiel 38-39 could be concurrent with the 6th seal, which could well be still a couple decades away.

we are very close. right at the finish line a mere hairsbreadth relatively speaking considering the thousands of years that have past.

I believe we are living shadows and forepictures like warning shots across the bow. the Lord wants billions more saved and we are to be occupying til He returns

love peace and joy

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flo6fujirose Hi rb. I'm glad you liked it. It's hard to say how things will actually work out from this war. But one things for sure, and that's that the world is going to get turned upside down.
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.





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