Just some thoughts. Is it time to just leave.

My gut response is this, rken:

It prefers to take steps, or processes, in changing its form...when things are coherent with the universe, transitions are smooth and wonderful...when things are incoherent with the universe, there is pain and suffering associated with the transition.

My gut response is this, rken:

It prefers to take steps, or processes, in changing its form...when things are coherent with the universe, transitions are smooth and wonderful...when things are incoherent with the universe, there is pain and suffering associated with the transition.

Hi sickscents. Thanks for the comments. can you define what you mean by coherent. I know the dict. meaning but sometimes words can be misleading. thanks. rken

For humans to live, we must use, and make things that pollute this world.

Ah yes, I see what you mean.

It would seem that as humans we take every opportunity to create dis harmony. Even the electric grid we choose to power out homes, would seem to set up discord, with the natural symphony that surrounds us. Living in such an environment would seem to shield us from the natural rhythms and promote discord. So while we advance technically, many of our advancements seem to only remove us more from a harmonious life style, that is more in balance. Rken

For humans to live, we must use, and make things that pollute this world.

This is not necessarily true.
It is just the way that people have been doing things, but is by no means the only options.
Out of the multitude of choices that have always been available, those in the top positions have always chosen the things which are the most harmful.
This is a root problem in human society which people seem completely oblivious to and do not attend to it at all.
Why is that do you suppose?

Ah yes, I see what you mean.

It would seem that as humans we take every opportunity to create dis harmony. Even the electric grid we choose to power out homes, would seem to set up discord, with the natural symphony that surrounds us. Living in such an environment would seem to shield us from the natural rhythms and promote discord. So while we advance technically, many of our advancements seem to only remove us more from a harmonious life style, that is more in balance. Rken


I believe this comes from us being so separated from spirit. Spirit...most people 'believe' that it is there, and we truly have it, but they do not KNOW it. Belief in your spirit is not the same as KNOWing your spirit.

So, we stumble through the processes, causing dissonance in the environment, in the universe, as we pass through. So, as the universe, or our environment, tries to return our actions to harmoniously exist in reality, there must be 'discharges', interference patterns, in order to resonate properly...

incoherent...transitioning to coherence = discharges and interference patterns.

Not One of us reading this thread is not in some way contributing to the destruction of this planet.

Not One of us reading this thread is not in some way contributing to the destruction of this planet.

Stop buying into the new religion of self hate and self loathing the planet was here long before us and it survived.
We are NOT stronger than the Earth, it owns us not the other way around.

It certainly is time to just leave, or something drastic like that. Consider the world of 100 years ago, the sizes communities had, the power relationships between people, how untouched nature was. Fastforward to today. Can you find a way to turn back? Yes, massive destruction of human works. And that is pretty drastic, or dissonant, but is only the way to get back to coherence.

It certainly is time to just leave, or something drastic like that. Consider the world of 100 years ago, the sizes communities had, the power relationships between people, how untouched nature was. Fastforward to today. Can you find a way to turn back? Yes, massive destruction of human works. And that is pretty drastic, or dissonant, but is only the way to get back to coherence.



AMEN

It certainly is time to just leave, or something drastic like that. Consider the world of 100 years ago, the sizes communities had, the power relationships between people, how untouched nature was. Fastforward to today. Can you find a way to turn back? Yes, massive destruction of human works. And that is pretty drastic, or dissonant, but is only the way to get back to coherence.



AMEN

As much as I hate to say it, it would appear to be the only way forward. The windows of opportunity seem to be closing rapidly. Perhaps this is in the sceme of things. It has happened before. Cycles within cycles. By the time we figure it all out once again, it is to late. Perhaps that is the purpose of the Georgia Guildstones. Not for the civilization, but a course of action for the next.

It certainly is time to just leave, or something drastic like that. Consider the world of 100 years ago, the sizes communities had, the power relationships between people, how untouched nature was. Fastforward to today. Can you find a way to turn back? Yes, massive destruction of human works. And that is pretty drastic, or dissonant, but is only the way to get back to coherence.



AMEN

As much as I hate to say it, it would appear to be the only way forward. The windows of opportunity seem to be closing rapidly. Perhaps this is in the sceme of things. It has happened before. Cycles within cycles. By the time we figure it all out once again, it is to late. Perhaps that is the purpose of the Georgia Guildstones. Not for the civilization, but a course of action for the next.

It certainly is time to just leave, or something drastic like that. Consider the world of 100 years ago, the sizes communities had, the power relationships between people, how untouched nature was. Fastforward to today. Can you find a way to turn back? Yes, massive destruction of human works. And that is pretty drastic, or dissonant, but is only the way to get back to coherence.



AMEN

As much as I hate to say it, it would appear to be the only way forward. The windows of opportunity seem to be closing rapidly. Perhaps this is in the sceme of things. It has happened before. Cycles within cycles. By the time we figure it all out once again, it is to late. Perhaps that is the purpose of the Georgia Guildstones. Not for the civilization, but a course of action for the next.



Nature usually takes care of itself in my opinion...if you put too many quail in a cage they will peck eachother to death until the population is correct...we are currently in the pecking stage..soon a plague, TPTB, or something along those lines will thin the heard...everytime you snap your fingers there are two more people being born...There will be 9 billion people on this earth by 2050...we cannot even produce enough food and electricy for that kind of demand...something will break..if one survives i`m not so sure it will be a good thing or not but I hope to...

Agree with that, Sickscent. We can all survive, and avoid the doom and gloom, if we change our habits. If we drop greed and blind obedience, and if we find a new source of food that's not industrial. However, that kind of opinions change, followed by concerted action and a willingness to change, and plain old massive earthquakes, are about as likely to happen just now.

It certainly is time to just leave, or something drastic like that. Consider the world of 100 years ago, the sizes communities had, the power relationships between people, how untouched nature was. Fastforward to today. Can you find a way to turn back? Yes, massive destruction of human works. And that is pretty drastic, or dissonant, but is only the way to get back to coherence.

Agree with that, Sickscent. We can all survive, and avoid the doom and gloom, if we change our habits. If we drop greed and blind obedience, and if we find a new source of food that's not industrial. However, that kind of opinions change, followed by concerted action and a willingness to change, and plain old massive earthquakes, are about as likely to happen just now.

Agree with that, Sickscent. We can all survive, and avoid the doom and gloom, if we change our habits. If we drop greed and blind obedience, and if we find a new source of food that's not industrial. However, that kind of opinions change, followed by concerted action and a willingness to change, and plain old massive earthquakes, are about as likely to happen just now.

Do you really think there can be that big of shift in mass consciousness, in what would appear to be a very short time. Could be wrong about the time frame.

It certainly is time to just leave, or something drastic like that. Consider the world of 100 years ago, the sizes communities had, the power relationships between people, how untouched nature was. Fastforward to today. Can you find a way to turn back? Yes, massive destruction of human works. And that is pretty drastic, or dissonant, but is only the way to get back to coherence.

A large enough geomagnetic storm should take care of us. It would be better than other alternatives (ie. nuclear war). It would force us to live off the land again. It would force us to be respect and befriend our neighbors again. We would have to come together as a society. Sometimes when I see hordes of people clicking away texting on cell phones and beating meaningless info into a computer I have to wonder if what we created was even worth it.

It certainly is time to just leave, or something drastic like that. Consider the world of 100 years ago, the sizes communities had, the power relationships between people, how untouched nature was. Fastforward to today. Can you find a way to turn back? Yes, massive destruction of human works. And that is pretty drastic, or dissonant, but is only the way to get back to coherence.

A large enough geomagnetic storm should take care of us. It would be better than other alternatives (ie. nuclear war). It would force us to live off the land again. It would force us to be respect and befriend our neighbors again. We would have to come together as a society. Sometimes when I see hordes of people clicking away texting on cell phones and beating meaningless info into a computer I have to wonder if what we created was even worth it.

I have thought the same thing. Every since the thread " some of you are close" and some of sickscents posts.

I'm afraid there would be a tremendous lose of life in the after math of such an event.