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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1090909 Canada 09/06/2010 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you believe in Jesus? Quoting: Edmond DantesTo me jesus was a good qumranian essene jew who tried to lead a people back to abrahamic tradition and preached love faith and hope. I believe he was a prophet and a good man. I just fail to see those qualities in fervent Muslims. May you find truth. look, edmund, you can't mix and match spitual truths. pick one and stick to it or you'll trip all over yourself. from now on you will be Mohammed Dantes to me. ------------------ as you wish. BTW I am not mix and match spiritual truths...I am explaining what I understand to be a singular absolute truth. Actually you should. All religions and spiritual systems come up short in one way or another. There is a bit of truth to be found in all of them. Some are less confusing than others and some suffer more or less cultural overlay that inhibits the view of the spiritual message. No one person has a mind large enough for a "singular absolute truth" and so must select those aspects that suit them personally. |
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(OP) User ID: 1032741 Canada 09/06/2010 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | as to the poster concerning the Eucharist. Transubstantiation (the turning of bread and wine into the body and blood of christ) following the rubrics laid out in the Ordo is a rendition of the melchizadekean way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1073929We have a difference of opinion ....you believe it to turn into jesus because of the Mass....I believe its bread and wine. The Holy Eucharist is true, believe, and why would you wish it otherwise? Since 33 A.D. at the Last Supper, Christ gave to us Himself, body, blood, soul and divinity. You have no spiritual life in you if you deny the Eucharist as Jesus states in John 6:54. Very soon, God in His mercy is going to try to convince the entire world this time. Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. Where is the divine in Islam? Give one witness to the unexplained, to the miraculous. I asked for the simple good to show God's presence in Islam previous, unless I missed it, no reply. Speak of the miraculous, you can't come up with it either. Watch the video, miracles within miracles. [youtube] [link to www.youtube.com] I did not answer because it tends to e a baited question not because I do not have examples. What would satisfy you? David Hume's cri de cour. well how about the very existance of Islam. There is more justification for Abrahams' (PBUH) religion to have died out than to exist still. Not all miracles are the parting of the sea... 1:1.618 ratio |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1073929 United States 09/06/2010 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | look, edmund, you can't mix and match spitual truths. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090909pick one and stick to it or you'll trip all over yourself. from now on you will be Mohammed Dantes to me. ------------------ as you wish. BTW I am not mix and match spiritual truths...I am explaining what I understand to be a singular absolute truth. =========== Actually you should. All religions and spiritual systems come up short in one way or another. There is a bit of truth to be found in all of them. Some are less confusing than others and some suffer more or less cultural overlay that inhibits the view of the spiritual message. No one person has a mind large enough for a "singular absolute truth" and so must select those aspects that suit them personally. Yes, there is too a "singular absolute truth." The Ac, God bless him or her though, is saying we cannot know God's plan or the reason we are here. That would make God evil. He is not, He is all love. He has revealed His love and plan for mankind. True but very sad, there are a lot of religions, Christian and non-Christian but there is only one faith. Like the Bible says. "One Lord, one faith, one baptism" It's interesting...the OP's words..."There is a bit of truth to be found in all of them." God the Father said the same in a message from Heaven, He was talking about the Religions of the world. Then He continued...with...only in the Roman Catholic Church can the fullness of Truth be found. Makes sense, Jesus established His Church in 33 A.D., we know...read Matthew 16:18. I can post the message from God the Father. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1073929 United States 09/06/2010 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | as to the poster concerning the Eucharist. Transubstantiation (the turning of bread and wine into the body and blood of christ) following the rubrics laid out in the Ordo is a rendition of the melchizadekean way. Quoting: Edmond DantesWe have a difference of opinion ....you believe it to turn into jesus because of the Mass....I believe its bread and wine. The Holy Eucharist is true, believe, and why would you wish it otherwise? Since 33 A.D. at the Last Supper, Christ gave to us Himself, body, blood, soul and divinity. You have no spiritual life in you if you deny the Eucharist as Jesus states in John 6:54. Very soon, God in His mercy is going to try to convince the entire world this time. Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. Where is the divine in Islam? Give one witness to the unexplained, to the miraculous. I asked for the simple good to show God's presence in Islam previous, unless I missed it, no reply. Speak of the miraculous, you can't come up with it either. Watch the video, miracles within miracles. [youtube] [link to www.youtube.com] I did not answer because it tends to e a baited question not because I do not have examples. What would satisfy you? David Hume's cri de cour. well how about the very existance of Islam. There is more justification for Abrahams' (PBUH) religion to have died out than to exist still. Not all miracles are the parting of the sea... Excuse! You can't name the Roman Catholic Seminary or the director and there is no "good" or "miracles" to show the fruit, the presence of God in Islam. You can't give one instance. Jesus is present in the Holy Eucharist and you have walked away...if you really ever were Roman Catholic. And for what...alone, we see how Islam treats defenseless women. Like dirt. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1091342 United States 09/06/2010 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually you should. All religions and spiritual systems come up short in one way or another[/b]. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1091342here you betray your self confessed muslim religion, my dear jazakAllah Dantes! i warned you of this, my dear jazakAllah. that you chose to ignore is your cross to bear. a house divided is seminary 1011 adiou me amigo. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 956677 United States 09/06/2010 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you now condone Sharia Law and the stoning of young girls and ten year olds being forced to marry old men, honor killings and all that is Islam? Quoting: BluebirdThis makes the world a better place? I don't see how it does. It is obvious you have never read the Old Testament or the Talmud. (Talmud filth will get removed from here) Your examples are mild. Is there some reason you don't read your bible? If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21 He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. -- Exodus 21:15 He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17 Children who mock their parents will have their eyes plucked out by ravens and eaten by eagles. The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it out, and the young eagles shall eat it. -- Proverbs 30:17 The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it out, and the young eagles shall eat it. -- Proverbs 30:17 [link to skepticsannotatedbible.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 956677 United States 09/06/2010 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | as to the poster concerning the Eucharist. Transubstantiation (the turning of bread and wine into the body and blood of christ) following the rubrics laid out in the Ordo is a rendition of the melchizadekean way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1073929We have a difference of opinion ....you believe it to turn into jesus because of the Mass....I believe its bread and wine. The Holy Eucharist is true, believe, and why would you wish it otherwise? Since 33 A.D. at the Last Supper, Christ gave to us Himself, body, blood, soul and divinity. You have no spiritual life in you if you deny the Eucharist as Jesus states in John 6:54. Very soon, God in His mercy is going to try to convince the entire world this time. Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. Where is the divine in Islam? Give one witness to the unexplained, to the miraculous. I asked for the simple good to show God's presence in Islam previous, unless I missed it, no reply. Speak of the miraculous, you can't come up with it either. Watch the video, miracles within miracles. [youtube] [link to www.youtube.com] I did not answer because it tends to e a baited question not because I do not have examples. What would satisfy you? David Hume's cri de cour. well how about the very existance of Islam. There is more justification for Abrahams' (PBUH) religion to have died out than to exist still. Not all miracles are the parting of the sea... Excuse! You can't name the Roman Catholic Seminary or the director and there is no "good" or "miracles" to show the fruit, the presence of God in Islam. You can't give one instance. Jesus is present in the Holy Eucharist and you have walked away...if you really ever were Roman Catholic. And for what...alone, we see how Islam treats defenseless women. Like dirt. Magical beliefs (miracles)...wasn't that the reason for the "pagan" genocides? The Roman Catholics, aka Inquisition and inspiration of millenia of war, rape and pillage and witch burnings...defenseless women...at the stake...sorry, you don't get a free pass to absolution. It's all insanity. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 725839 United States 09/06/2010 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | as to the poster concerning the Eucharist. Transubstantiation (the turning of bread and wine into the body and blood of christ) following the rubrics laid out in the Ordo is a rendition of the melchizadekean way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 956677We have a difference of opinion ....you believe it to turn into jesus because of the Mass....I believe its bread and wine. The Holy Eucharist is true, believe, and why would you wish it otherwise? Since 33 A.D. at the Last Supper, Christ gave to us Himself, body, blood, soul and divinity. You have no spiritual life in you if you deny the Eucharist as Jesus states in John 6:54. Very soon, God in His mercy is going to try to convince the entire world this time. Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. Where is the divine in Islam? Give one witness to the unexplained, to the miraculous. I asked for the simple good to show God's presence in Islam previous, unless I missed it, no reply. Speak of the miraculous, you can't come up with it either. Watch the video, miracles within miracles. [youtube] [link to www.youtube.com] I did not answer because it tends to e a baited question not because I do not have examples. What would satisfy you? David Hume's cri de cour. well how about the very existance of Islam. There is more justification for Abrahams' (PBUH) religion to have died out than to exist still. Not all miracles are the parting of the sea... Excuse! You can't name the Roman Catholic Seminary or the director and there is no "good" or "miracles" to show the fruit, the presence of God in Islam. You can't give one instance. Jesus is present in the Holy Eucharist and you have walked away...if you really ever were Roman Catholic. And for what...alone, we see how Islam treats defenseless women. Like dirt. Magical beliefs (miracles)...wasn't that the reason for the "pagan" genocides? The Roman Catholics, aka Inquisition and inspiration of millenia of war, rape and pillage and witch burnings...defenseless women...at the stake...sorry, you don't get a free pass to absolution. It's all insanity. Game, Set and Match. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1091342 United States 09/06/2010 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually you should. All religions and spiritual systems come up short in one way or another[/b]. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1091342here you betray your self confessed muslim religion, my dear jazakAllah Dantes! i warned you of this, my dear jazakAllah. that you chose to ignore is your cross to bear. a house divided is seminary 1011 adiou me amigo. "...that he would be torn apart by the jackals of unleavened..." someone may have said that sometime, once. bon apetite my good amigos, adeiu. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1073929 United States 09/06/2010 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | as to the poster concerning the Eucharist. Transubstantiation (the turning of bread and wine into the body and blood of christ) following the rubrics laid out in the Ordo is a rendition of the melchizadekean way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 956677We have a difference of opinion ....you believe it to turn into jesus because of the Mass....I believe its bread and wine. The Holy Eucharist is true, believe, and why would you wish it otherwise? Since 33 A.D. at the Last Supper, Christ gave to us Himself, body, blood, soul and divinity. You have no spiritual life in you if you deny the Eucharist as Jesus states in John 6:54. Very soon, God in His mercy is going to try to convince the entire world this time. Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. Where is the divine in Islam? Give one witness to the unexplained, to the miraculous. I asked for the simple good to show God's presence in Islam previous, unless I missed it, no reply. Speak of the miraculous, you can't come up with it either. Watch the video, miracles within miracles. [youtube] [link to www.youtube.com] I did not answer because it tends to e a baited question not because I do not have examples. What would satisfy you? David Hume's cri de cour. well how about the very existance of Islam. There is more justification for Abrahams' (PBUH) religion to have died out than to exist still. Not all miracles are the parting of the sea... Excuse! You can't name the Roman Catholic Seminary or the director and there is no "good" or "miracles" to show the fruit, the presence of God in Islam. You can't give one instance. Jesus is present in the Holy Eucharist and you have walked away...if you really ever were Roman Catholic. And for what...alone, we see how Islam treats defenseless women. Like dirt. Magical beliefs (miracles)...wasn't that the reason for the "pagan" genocides? The Roman Catholics, aka Inquisition and inspiration of millenia of war, rape and pillage and witch burnings...defenseless women...at the stake...sorry, you don't get a free pass to absolution. It's all insanity. Reply to the Protestant English Inquisition and persecution and we see until this day of Catholics!! Thomas More was martyred because he would not bow down to the lies of Protestant heresy. And there is a beautiful country enslaved right now because of Protestantism. Did you forget Ireland. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 725839 United States 09/06/2010 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reply to the Protestant English Inquisition and persecution and we see until this day of Catholics!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1073929Thomas More was martyred because he would not bow down to the lies of Protestant heresy. And there is a beautiful country enslaved right now because of Protestantism. Did you forget Ireland. Pardon me Peewee, but have you ever noticed that "religion" in general and the abegod blood cults in particular are all about slavery? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1091464 United States 09/06/2010 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually you should. All religions and spiritual systems come up short in one way or another[/b]. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1091342here you betray your self confessed muslim religion, my dear jazakAllah Dantes! i warned you of this, my dear jazakAlr ylah. that you chose to ignore is your cross to bear. a house divided is seminary 1011 adiou me amigo. "...that he would be torn apart by the jackals of unleavened..." someone may have said that sometime, once. bon apetite my good amigos, adeiu. the monsters of the unleavenened , i have not misspoken thus. may the flag of many pardons fly from your yardarms sir, adieu an infinitum my friend. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1091464 United States 09/06/2010 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually you should. All religions and spiritual systems come up short in one way or another[/b]. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1091342here you betray your self confessed muslim religion, my dear jazakAllah Dantes! i warned you of this, my dear jazakAlr ylah. that you chose to ignore is your cross to bear. a house divided is seminary 1011 adiou me amigo. "...that he would be torn apart by the jackals of unleavened..." someone may have said that sometime, once. bon apetite my good amigos, adeiu. the monsters of the unleavenened , i have not misspoken thus. may the flag of many pardons fly from your yardarms sir, adieu an infinitum my friend. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1073929 United States 09/06/2010 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | to the two posters above me. ...Yes I was in formation I have an undegraduate degree from Texas A & M in philosophy I lived at hart hall on campus. I spent two years previous to that in formation. I was torn between a diocesan priest and being a religous trinitarian friar. Their main place for formation is in baltimore maryland. Father Albert Ansuweszki was the vocations director at the time. Their charism was the redemption of the captives. I stayed in their three story red rick monastery for some time. I also visited with the legionnaires of christ with father obannon and the redemptorists in san antonio texas as well as Snow mass abby (benedictine trappist monastery in colorado). Beyond these words there is no ''proof'' that I can satisfy you with. Quoting: Edmond DantesEdmond, Jumping all around the country...hmmm. "Their main place for formation is in Baltimore Maryland." Who is "Their" and anyone can type in a name. I checked, there is nothing to be found on a Father Albert Ansuwezki. You've made it all up. No one can stand habitual liars. Go to Confession is my advise, be truthful from then on... Im a liar huh? ok here: since you searched and found nothing ... [link to www.trinitarianhistory.org] OP. I apologize. Still, to make things clear, give me the dates you spent there and the name of your superior, is Father Ansuwezki? I could check to see if he knew you. Post if you don't mind, to prove you are being honest, your last name, the initial of your first name and the time period you spent at Holy Trinity. A major question, how could a seminarian, when did you stop believing in the Holy Eucharist? thanks, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1073929 United States 09/06/2010 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reply to the Protestant English Inquisition and persecution and we see until this day of Catholics!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725839Thomas More was martyred because he would not bow down to the lies of Protestant heresy. And there is a beautiful country enslaved right now because of Protestantism. Did you forget Ireland. Pardon me Peewee, but have you ever noticed that "religion" in general and the abegod blood cults in particular are all about slavery? I respect you enough not to call you a mocking name. Do the same. Slavery is a lame constantly used reason not to believe. It's not true. No one makes you believe anything. You take the easy way and try to justify it. So obvious. You can change though, your eternal life depends on it. |
Fallenmonk
User ID: 1091407 United Kingdom 09/06/2010 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP do you feel like you have a close relationship with the Father, like a friendship ?. You may not be willing to answer this but I will ask anyway. Is it right for Muslims to lie to save their asses(sura) when God commands us to not lie. A lie is a lie after all is it not ? I am an ex catholic and leaving them was one of the best things I have done because I never would have found out what the truth is. Keep well and God bless. "Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy! " |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1073929 United States 09/06/2010 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reply to the Protestant English Inquisition and persecution and we see until this day of Catholics!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725839Thomas More was martyred because he would not bow down to the lies of Protestant heresy. And there is a beautiful country enslaved right now because of Protestantism. Did you forget Ireland. Pardon me Peewee, but have you ever noticed that "religion" in general and the abegod blood cults in particular are all about slavery? Ac 825839, You didn't reply to the Protestant inquisition in England and their persecution of Catholics in Ireland and here. Did you change the subject for a reason? |
Fallenmonk
User ID: 1091407 United Kingdom 09/06/2010 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | to the two posters above me. ...Yes I was in formation I have an undegraduate degree from Texas A & M in philosophy I lived at hart hall on campus. I spent two years previous to that in formation. I was torn between a diocesan priest and being a religous trinitarian friar. Their main place for formation is in baltimore maryland. Father Albert Ansuweszki was the vocations director at the time. Their charism was the redemption of the captives. I stayed in their three story red rick monastery for some time. I also visited with the legionnaires of christ with father obannon and the redemptorists in san antonio texas as well as Snow mass abby (benedictine trappist monastery in colorado). Beyond these words there is no ''proof'' that I can satisfy you with. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1073929Edmond, Jumping all around the country...hmmm. "Their main place for formation is in Baltimore Maryland." Who is "Their" and anyone can type in a name. I checked, there is nothing to be found on a Father Albert Ansuwezki. You've made it all up. No one can stand habitual liars. Go to Confession is my advise, be truthful from then on... Im a liar huh? ok here: since you searched and found nothing ... [link to www.trinitarianhistory.org] OP. I apologize. Still, to make things clear, give me the dates you spent there and the name of your superior, is Father Ansuwezki? I could check to see if he knew you. Post if you don't mind, to prove you are being honest, your last name, the initial of your first name and the time period you spent at Holy Trinity. A major question, how could a seminarian, when did you stop believing in the Holy Eucharist? thanks, Op no need to post your last name here. Beware of inflitrators. Last Edited by Sword of mercy on 09/06/2010 08:25 PM "Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy! " |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1073929 United States 09/06/2010 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP do you feel like you have a close relationship with the Father, like a friendship ?. Quoting: FallenmonkYou may not be willing to answer this but I will ask anyway. Is it right for Muslims to lie to save their asses(sura) when God commands us to not lie. A lie is a lie after all is it not ? I am an ex catholic and leaving them was one of the best things I have done because I never would have found out what the truth is. Keep well and God bless. It's going to be difficult for you, when you see you chose to leave the Truth. Protestantism is man-made. If you could just believe in the Holy Eucharist Fallenmonk. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1073929 United States 09/06/2010 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | to the two posters above me. ...Yes I was in formation I have an undegraduate degree from Texas A & M in philosophy I lived at hart hall on campus. I spent two years previous to that in formation. I was torn between a diocesan priest and being a religous trinitarian friar. Their main place for formation is in baltimore maryland. Father Albert Ansuweszki was the vocations director at the time. Their charism was the redemption of the captives. I stayed in their three story red rick monastery for some time. I also visited with the legionnaires of christ with father obannon and the redemptorists in san antonio texas as well as Snow mass abby (benedictine trappist monastery in colorado). Beyond these words there is no ''proof'' that I can satisfy you with. Quoting: FallenmonkEdmond, Jumping all around the country...hmmm. "Their main place for formation is in Baltimore Maryland." Who is "Their" and anyone can type in a name. I checked, there is nothing to be found on a Father Albert Ansuwezki. You've made it all up. No one can stand habitual liars. Go to Confession is my advise, be truthful from then on... Im a liar huh? ok here: since you searched and found nothing ... [link to www.trinitarianhistory.org] OP. I apologize. Still, to make things clear, give me the dates you spent there and the name of your superior, is Father Ansuwezki? I could check to see if he knew you. Post if you don't mind, to prove you are being honest, your last name, the initial of your first name and the time period you spent at Holy Trinity. A major question, how could a seminarian, when did you stop believing in the Holy Eucharist? thanks, Op no need to post your last name here. Figure out a way the OP can prove he was in the Seminary Mr. Anti-Catholic. Always the former Catholics...will do anything to knock the faith even to defend someone else leaving it to become Muslim. |
Fallenmonk
User ID: 1091407 United Kingdom 09/06/2010 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP do you feel like you have a close relationship with the Father, like a friendship ?. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1073929You may not be willing to answer this but I will ask anyway. Is it right for Muslims to lie to save their asses(sura) when God commands us to not lie. A lie is a lie after all is it not ? I am an ex catholic and leaving them was one of the best things I have done because I never would have found out what the truth is. Keep well and God bless. It's going to be difficult for you, when you see you chose to leave the Truth. Protestantism is man-made. If you could just believe in the Holy Eucharist Fallenmonk. I could no longer be part of the whore. But you go ahead kissing the pope middle finger or supporting a church whose bank vaults are run by the mafia. You going to tell me to say 50 hail Marys next ?. "Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy! " |
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Fallenmonk
User ID: 1091407 United Kingdom 09/06/2010 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | to the two posters above me. ...Yes I was in formation I have an undegraduate degree from Texas A & M in philosophy I lived at hart hall on campus. I spent two years previous to that in formation. I was torn between a diocesan priest and being a religous trinitarian friar. Their main place for formation is in baltimore maryland. Father Albert Ansuweszki was the vocations director at the time. Their charism was the redemption of the captives. I stayed in their three story red rick monastery for some time. I also visited with the legionnaires of christ with father obannon and the redemptorists in san yuppieantonio texas as well as Snow mass abby (benedictine trappist monastery in colorado). Beyond these words there is no ''proof'' that I can satisfy you with. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1073929Edmond, Jumping all around the country...hmmm. "Their main place for formation is in Baltimore Maryland." Who is "Their" and anyone can type in a name. I checked, there is nothing to be found on a Father Albert Ansuwezki. You've made it all up. No one can stand habitual liars. Go to Confession is my advise, be truthful from then on... Im a liar huh? ok here: since you searched and found nothing ... [link to www.trinitarianhistory.org] OP. I apologize. Still, to make things clear, give me the dates you spent there and the name of your superior, is Father Ansuwezki? I could check to see if he knew you. Post if you don't mind, to prove you are being honest, your last name, the initial of your first name and the time period you spent at Holy Trinity. A major question, how could a seminarian, when did you stop believing in the Holy Eucharist? thanks, Op no need to post your last name here. Figure out a way the OP can prove he was in the Seminary Mr. Anti-Catholic. Always the former Catholics...will do anything to knock the faith even to defend someone else leaving it to become Muslim. Faith ? The catholic church is just one big man made tradition. If the pope had real faith he would tear down all the statues, give all the gold to the poor,he would drive out all the satanists,he would gather all his priests and march into every muslim country preaching the truth. But instead he prefers the safety of his thrown. Can you imagine the Apostles living like he does. "Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy! " |
Fallenmonk
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kalamity kool
User ID: 734307 United States 09/06/2010 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I spent 6 years studying in college to become a Roman Catholic priest....History Archeaology Philosophy etc...I am a convert to Islam. Quoting: Edmond DantesI make no apology. I am not here to apostlytize. I am going to show how I came to this ...and allow others to see some of my thoughts in this regard as requested by others here on GLP. ++++I reserve the right to ignore people on this thread due to the personal nature of it.+++++ I am posting my thoughts for GLP to share and discuss not for me to Lead this thread. first the basics.... Why believe in a god in the first place? cosmological teleological ontological proofs notwithstanding....Mathematics in Rene descartes 7 days meditations takes geometry from ''origin'' (0,0,0) in an effort to deduce from God a world.....Geometry works today. aether Physics quantum mechanics too many others to list... Well whats God like then if he exists? Omnibenevolent Omniscient Omnipotent etc...these are Necessary Qualities to ascribe to a God by DEFINITION.....ie it is a tautology to define God as anything else. Well then I started to discern the various religions based upon my understandings of the above.... example: Norse have Thor and Odin amongst other Gods....the essence being a split of power = not Omnipotent....thus fail. worship of the Sun sun = urning plasma etc...=not Omniscient= fail and proceeded with more and more mythos and religions until to my satisfaction had the three Abrahamic ones. I Judaism II Christianity III Islam First to christianity.... For 1500 years there was no differentiation (only after Martin Luther wrote his theses) in OFFICIAL church doctorine. After the council of Nicea (and consequently the edict of milan that made christianity the official religion of rome) was there a consensus in belief....these occured around the year 300 During the deliberations the apocrypha were denoted and summarily exiled from the bible(yes parts of the bible were debated and removed). this lead to differing interpretations of theology which persist to today. ....ie 2nd maccabbees...purgatory issue.''holy thought to pray for the dead''...etc. in essence a disagreement over what should be in the bible and thus belief Judaism follows the Torah Which is itself written in various form EJP (elohist yawhist priestly) versions...during the abylonian captivity. Essentially the jews copied Sumerian stories and attributed the stories to ''judaic'' essences.. example Noahs flood account= Epic story of Gilgamesh which is much older and was in the area written on the ziggurat that the jews were captured in.... Moses=Sargon1st parallels possibly etc. even the story of david slaying goliath goliath= Elhanan, the son of Jaareoregim slew goliath...David served the phillistines against the israelites. the point is the stories have been manipulated to serve theological ends.... Which leads to Islam which says in Essence The bible is correct except for ''XYZ'' and ''xyz'' interpretations are wrong....it actually went down like this.... a long intro I know ...again I make no apology. I am merely sharing why I am muslim. Judging from the fact that thousands of peoeople have read my threads I guess there is at least one ''good muslim''....I wish GLP would end its tirade of hate against Islam. I wish you all well.God bless us all. Took me a while to understand just why you rejected Christianity, it came down to this? "in essence a disagreement over what should be in the bible and thus belief" for me the disagreements are a sign of life.. "Which leads to Islam which says in Essence The bible is correct except for ''XYZ'' and ''xyz'' interpretations are wrong....it actually went down like this...." isn't that just a further disagreement? Christianity is the result of the last major historical interaction of God with the people of this planet. I've never understood the preoccupation with which religion contained the most truth at the beginning, surely the God of your definition would keep moving things along? Last Edited by kalamity kool on 09/06/2010 09:31 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 725839 United States 09/06/2010 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pardon me Peewee, but have you ever noticed that "religion" in general and the abegod blood cults in particular are all about slavery? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1073929Ac 825839, You didn't reply to the Protestant inquisition in England and their persecution of Catholics in Ireland and here. Did you change the subject for a reason? LMAO..did I stutter? I could care less which verion of blood cult you worship,or which blood cult did what to another blood cult... They are all truly wicked in nature and practice. You, and all abegod blood cultists worship an insidious, capricious, bloodthirsty beast who jerks off to the smell of burning human and animal flesh. To top it all off, you PROUDLY choose to worship catholicism,,THE most insidious of the sun god blood cults. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1073929 United States 09/06/2010 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP do you feel like you have a close relationship with the Father, like a friendship ?. Quoting: FallenmonkYou may not be willing to answer this but I will ask anyway. Is it right for Muslims to lie to save their asses(sura) when God commands us to not lie. A lie is a lie after all is it not ? I am an ex catholic and leaving them was one of the best things I have done because I never would have found out what the truth is. Keep well and God bless. It's going to be difficult for you, when you see you chose to leave the Truth. Protestantism is man-made. If you could just believe in the Holy Eucharist Fallenmonk. I could no longer be part of the whore. But you go ahead kissing the pope middle finger or supporting a church whose bank vaults are run by the mafia. You going to tell me to say 50 hail Marys next ?. Fallenmonk, the "Babylon" is world wide, it is the sin of the world now not just one city. And your "whore" term comes from Ellen White, founder of the 7th Day Adventists! You quote a non-Christian woman who started her own sect. You are going with her...to mock the faith of your baptism? These are weak excuses, when are you ever going to be in the presence of the Holy Father to show Him any respect? Kissing the middle finger of the Pope. I am not sure if it is a requirement or just a respectful tradition or a made up Protestant protest. Those are your reason for leaving the faith? It does probably have to do with prayer and Mass and the requirements. Do you realize...the Roman Catholic requirements are from God? Some of the required, recall, are the 10 Commandments. God asks so little, He gave you life, now and for eternity. Believe, what you think is so difficult like the prayer of the Hail Mary are given to help you more than a must do. And the Hail Mary isn't a requirement, it's an extra benefit. You wish to decide for yourself, maybe it's another "chip" on your shoulder or simply you don't know the faith. The "grace" of the Sacraments were given to us by Our Lord to help us get to Heaven FM. |
Edmond Dantes
(OP) User ID: 1032690 Canada 09/06/2010 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I spent 6 years studying in college to become a Roman Catholic priest....History Archeaology Philosophy etc...I am a convert to Islam. Quoting: kalamity koolI make no apology. I am not here to apostlytize. I am going to show how I came to this ...and allow others to see some of my thoughts in this regard as requested by others here on GLP. ++++I reserve the right to ignore people on this thread due to the personal nature of it.+++++ I am posting my thoughts for GLP to share and discuss not for me to Lead this thread. first the basics.... Why believe in a god in the first place? cosmological teleological ontological proofs notwithstanding....Mathematics in Rene descartes 7 days meditations takes geometry from ''origin'' (0,0,0) in an effort to deduce from God a world.....Geometry works today. aether Physics quantum mechanics too many others to list... Well whats God like then if he exists? Omnibenevolent Omniscient Omnipotent etc...these are Necessary Qualities to ascribe to a God by DEFINITION.....ie it is a tautology to define God as anything else. Well then I started to discern the various religions based upon my understandings of the above.... example: Norse have Thor and Odin amongst other Gods....the essence being a split of power = not Omnipotent....thus fail. worship of the Sun sun = urning plasma etc...=not Omniscient= fail and proceeded with more and more mythos and religions until to my satisfaction had the three Abrahamic ones. I Judaism II Christianity III Islam First to christianity.... For 1500 years there was no differentiation (only after Martin Luther wrote his theses) in OFFICIAL church doctorine. After the council of Nicea (and consequently the edict of milan that made christianity the official religion of rome) was there a consensus in belief....these occured around the year 300 During the deliberations the apocrypha were denoted and summarily exiled from the bible(yes parts of the bible were debated and removed). this lead to differing interpretations of theology which persist to today. ....ie 2nd maccabbees...purgatory issue.''holy thought to pray for the dead''...etc. in essence a disagreement over what should be in the bible and thus belief Judaism follows the Torah Which is itself written in various form EJP (elohist yawhist priestly) versions...during the abylonian captivity. Essentially the jews copied Sumerian stories and attributed the stories to ''judaic'' essences.. example Noahs flood account= Epic story of Gilgamesh which is much older and was in the area written on the ziggurat that the jews were captured in.... Moses=Sargon1st parallels possibly etc. even the story of david slaying goliath goliath= Elhanan, the son of Jaareoregim slew goliath...David served the phillistines against the israelites. the point is the stories have been manipulated to serve theological ends.... Which leads to Islam which says in Essence The bible is correct except for ''XYZ'' and ''xyz'' interpretations are wrong....it actually went down like this.... a long intro I know ...again I make no apology. I am merely sharing why I am muslim. Judging from the fact that thousands of peoeople have read my threads I guess there is at least one ''good muslim''....I wish GLP would end its tirade of hate against Islam. I wish you all well.God bless us all. Took me a while to understand just why you rejected Christianity, it came down to this? "in essence a disagreement over what should be in the bible and thus belief" for me the disgreements are a sign of life.. "Which leads to Islam which says in Essence The bible is correct except for ''XYZ'' and ''xyz'' interpretations are wrong....it actually went down like this...." isn't that just a further disagreement? First, Thankyou for at least trying to understand. Further disagreement that can be verified. The Quran is unadulterated. There is only one ''version''.Inside the Quran are references to things that humanity has only recently begun to understand scientifically. The disagreements ended for me when a message was given with clarity. Fallenmonk Yes I am close to God. To the poster who wanted me to Post my name...No. I have been attacked verbally long enough. I do not need to be attacked physically. To all I am tired and will be going to bed now. Good night and God bless you all. 1:1.618 ratio |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1073929 United States 09/06/2010 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pardon me Peewee, but have you ever noticed that "religion" in general and the abegod blood cults in particular are all about slavery? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725839Ac 825839, You didn't reply to the Protestant inquisition in England and their persecution of Catholics in Ireland and here. Did you change the subject for a reason? LMAO..did I stutter? I could care less which verion of blood cult you worship,or which blood cult did what to another blood cult... They are all truly wicked in nature and practice. You, and all abegod blood cultists worship an insidious, capricious, bloodthirsty beast who XXXXXXXXXXXXX To top it all off, you PROUDLY choose to worship catholicism,,THE most insidious of the sun god blood cults. What a gentleman, I want to follow what you believe, love your idiot pornographic reply. You've repeated the same "blood cult" whatever it meant three times. Think for yourself. Ah, the "sun god" put down, another of E.G. White's terms. Don't speak of Catholic sin till you can defend your own inquisition and persecution of others. Can you imagine Ireland to ever be one peaceful Catholic Nation that it once was Ac> I am so sorry, it's obvious you don't understand or know anything about the faith. Which Protestant sect were you baptized into? |