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User ID: 1032803 United Arab Emirates 07/11/2010 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP in my opinion people like you shouldn't be allowed access to a computer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 942194thats only your opinion. I thought the post made perfectly Good sense. did you even read it? .A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell. C. S. Lewis |
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Billy Bob Joe Briggs User ID: 516842 United States 07/11/2010 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I must confess that you literalist Xtians amaze me. Clearly you can see the mythological nature of Santa Claus but are unable to see that the historical Jesus is just as much a mythological being as dear old Saint Nick. Get your mind right with the Cosmic Christ. Quit arguing the minutia of the life history of your Jesus and turn off the chatter of your left monkey brain. Get clear and focused and join us in unity with the Cosmic Christ. You'll feel a lot better and won't be inclined to post inane ramblings like what you used to start this thread. |
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User ID: 1013398 United States 07/11/2010 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Christmas is a false pagan holiday. God never commanded it Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1033132+1 Objections to the Christmas Tree: In the past, there have been many objections to Christmas trees: The Prophet Jeremiah condemned as Pagan the ancient Middle Eastern practice of cutting down trees, bringing them into the home and decorating them. Of course, these were not really Christmas trees, because Jesus was not born until centuries later, and the use of Christmas trees was not introduced for many centuries after his birth. Apparently, in Jeremiah's time the "heathen" would cut down trees, carve or decorate them in the form of a god or goddess, and overlay it with precious metals. Some Christians feel that this Pagan practice was similar enough to our present use of Christmas trees that this passage from Jeremiah can be used to condemn both. [link to www.religioustolerance.org] So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16 *********************************** You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed. :tgdmwt: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1009792 United States 07/11/2010 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I must confess that you literalist Xtians amaze me. Quoting: Billy Bob Joe Briggs 516842Clearly you can see the mythological nature of Santa Claus but are unable to see that the historical Jesus is just as much a mythological being as dear old Saint Nick. you are wrong friend, The biblical Jesus and that which is acreditted to him are as real as it gets. Your disbelief and it's likley cause is exactly what the OP is talking about. Tricking people into believing it's all fairy tales. |
Billy Bob Joe Briggs User ID: 516842 United States 07/11/2010 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I must confess that you literalist Xtians amaze me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1009792Clearly you can see the mythological nature of Santa Claus but are unable to see that the historical Jesus is just as much a mythological being as dear old Saint Nick. you are wrong friend, The biblical Jesus and that which is acreditted to him are as real as it gets. Your disbelief and it's likley cause is exactly what the OP is talking about. Tricking people into believing it's all fairy tales. Ahhh........no. You can believe discredited sources and all the control mechanisms put into place to keep the "little" people in their place that you care to believe. That's your right. I suppose you have no choice but to cling tenaciously to your mistaken beliefs, once again your business. That said make no mistake about this, even the gospels can't get the story straight. [link to biblebabble.curbjaw.com] If your bible is filled with contradictions where do you get off claiming that "The biblical Jesus and that which is acreditted (sic) to him are as real as it gets." Maybe you need to get real. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1033371 United States 07/11/2010 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to biblebabble.curbjaw.com] Quoting: Billy Bob Joe Briggs 516842If your bible is filled with contradictions where do you get off claiming that "The biblical Jesus and that which is acreditted (sic) to him are as real as it gets." Maybe you need to get real. I suggest the biggest reason you believe this crap is your desire to WANT to believe it. I read through it and it fails at all levels. no offense friend, but you guys just copy and paste stuff and give links to this kind of hogwash. stand on your own two feet, Pluck out the best example you think resides at that link and explain the merits you think it has in your own words and I'll show you where it's wrong. I'm not mad at you, just the people who weave this deiectful crap, lies that hurt YOU. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1031773 United States 07/11/2010 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus Christ vs Santa Claus: Santa truly has been created to be a counterfeit Jesus to the Secular World! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1033154Resources to aid your Understanding When we carefully compare the myth of Santa Claus versus the real Biblical story of Jesus Christ, we are presented with the shocking truth that Santa has been thoroughly created to replace Jesus Christ in too many people's lives. The New World Order is coming! Are you ready? Once you understand what this New World Order really is, and how it is being gradually implemented, you will be able to see it progressing in your daily news!! Learn how to protect yourself, your loved ones! Stand by for insights so startling you will never look at the news the same way again. YOU ARE NOW ON THE CUTTING EDGE New Age authors repeatedly state that the supreme head of the Planetary Logos -- their supreme leader -- is named Sanat Kumara. Master D.K., speaking through Alice Bailey, defines Sanat Kumara as the "life and informing intelligence upon and within our planet." [ The Externalisation of the Hierarchy, Alice A. Bailey, Page 676]. Later, Sanat Kumara is identified by another title: The Lord of the World [Page 735]. Of course, this is synonymous to one of the Biblical titles for Satan. In John 12:31, 14:30, and 16:11, Jesus called Satan the "Prince of the World". Thus, there can be no doubt that the Sanat, the New Age supreme head, whom they call, the "Lord of the World" is none other than Satan, whom Jesus called "Prince of the World". Sanat is simply and only a translocation of the word, Satan. Sanat equals Satan. There is no doubt, especially when you realize that the Plan to produce the New World Order of Sanat is identical to the Biblical prophecy of how Satan is going to act in the End of the Age. Santa equals Satan. Now, please allow me to introduce to you another translocation of the word, Satan. Santa. As in Santa Claus. Before you react too quickly, please take the time to read this comparison between the Biblical teachings about Jesus Christ and the mythical teachings of Santa Claus. Many, many Christian pastors have lamented the fact that Santa Claus has replaced Jesus Christ in the hearts and minds of too many children and adults in America today. When you read this comparison, you will understand that this replacement in the hearts and minds of Americans is not by accident. You will be able to see Satan, the Master Marionette, pulling the strings above the world, leading adults and children alike away from Jesus Christ and toward Santa Claus, who is the epitome' of the love of the world and everything that is in it. COMPARISON BETWEEN JESUS CHRIST AND SANTA CLAUS JESUS CHRIST: OUR LORD AND SAVIOR ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE SANTA CLAUS: THE COUNTERFEIT ACCORDING TO MYTH OF MEN 1. Has white hair like wool (Rev 1:14) 1. Has white hair like wool 2. Has a beard (Isaiah 50:6) 2. Has a beard 3. Comes in red apparel Isaiah (63:1-2) 3. Comes in red apparel 4. Hour of His coming is a mystery (Luke 12:40; Mark 13:33) 4. Hour of his coming is a mystery 5. Comes from the North where He lives (Ezekiel 1:4; Psalm 48:2) 5. Comes from the North where he lives: North Pole 6. Is a carpenter (Mark 6:3) 6. Is a toy carpenter 7. Comes as a thief in the night (Matthew 24:43-44) 7. Comes as a thief in the night. Even gains entrance to homes as a thief. 8. Omnipotent -- all powerful (Rev 19:6) 8. Omnipotent -- can deliver all the toys of the world in one night 9. Omniscient -- knows all (Hebrews 4:13; 1 John 3:20) 9. Omniscient -- knows if you have been good or bad, for the entire year 10. Omnipresent (Psalm 139:7-10; Ephesians 4:6; John 3:13) 10. Omnipresent -- sees when you wake or sleep. Has to be everywhere at once to be able to deliver all the toys in one short night. 11. Ageless, eternal (Rev 1:8; 21:6) 11. Lives forever 12. Lives in men (1 Cor 3:16; 2 Cor 6:16-17) 12. Lives in the hearts of children 13. Giver of Gifts (Ephesians 4:8) 13. Giver of Gifts 14. Absolute Truth (John 14:6) 14. Absolute Fable - (1 Tim 1:4; 4:7; 2 Tim 4:4) 15. Sits on a throne (Rev 5:1; Heb 1:8) 15. Sits on a throne 16. We are told to boldly go to the throne of Grace for our needs (Heb 4:16) 16. Children are bidden to approach his throne to ask for anything they want 17. Commands children to obey parents 17. Tells children to obey parents 18. Wants little children to come to Him (Mark 10:14) 18. Bids children to come unto him 19. Judges (Rom 14:10; Rev 20:2) 19. Judges whether you were good or bad 20. Everlasting Father (Isa 9:6; Heb 12:2) 20. Father Christmas 21. Christ Child (Matt 1:23; Luke 2:11-12) 21. Kris Kringle (means christ child) 22. Worthy of Prayers and Worship (Rev 5:14 Hebrews 1:6) 22. Prayers and worship to "St. Nick" by children 23. Lord of Hosts (Mal 3:5; Isa 8:13; Psalms 24:10) 23. Lord over a host of elves - (In Druidic religion, elves are demons or tree spirits 24. God says, "Ho, ho ... (Zechariah 2:6) 24. Santa says, "Ho, ho, ho ..." 25. Prince of Peace, the Image of God (Isa 9:6; Hebrews 1:3) 25. Symbol of World Peace, the image of the Christmas Season Note: This comparison taken from "The GOOD NEWSletter", by Former Catholics For Christ, Oct/Nov/Dec, 1997. Clearly, you can see that someone deliberately created a Secular counterfeit to Jesus Christ, matching the many attributes of Jesus Christ with Santa Claus! There are too many direct matches for this creation of Santa Claus to have been an accident. We are told in Job 1:6-7 that Satan walks up and down on the Earth, as if it were a small garden plot completely under his domination. Satan can be thought of as a Master Marionette, pulling the strings on Earth. Certainly, in these Last Days, Satan would have wanted someone else to draw the attention, admiration, and love of the children away from Jesus Christ. But, not only that, Satan would have wanted to infect children early with that most devastating of spiritual diseases, the love of material things, and the love of oneself that goes with trying to get as many presents as possible! The creation and promotion of Santa Claus certainly fulfills all these goals. Remember that one of Jesus' End Times prophecy was that the hearts of the people would have become extremely cold to Him. "And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold." (Matthew 24:12) Certainly, children are told to come to the wrong source for their gifts, they are encouraged to right behavior throughout the year for the wrong reasons, and they are taught to love material things rather than, and more than, God. This brings to thought another End Times Scripture. "But understand this, that in the last days will come perilous times of great stress and trouble, hard to deal with and hard to bear. For people will be lovers of self and utterly self-centered, lovers of money and aroused by an inordinate greedy desire for wealth ... They will be lovers of sensual pleasures and vain amusements, more than and rather than, lovers of God." (2 Timothy 4:1, 2, 4; Parallel Bible, KJV/Amplified Commentary). Doesn't this prophecy perfectly describe our society today? Children are being taught, at a very early age, to love material possessions, to try to get as many presents as possible, and to love themselves greatly, all as a result in believing this pagan myth of Santa Claus. We encourage you to take this information with the love in which it was given. You certainly should not teach your children of the myth of Santa Claus, and you should teach them that Jesus Christ is the Reason for the Season. While there is no harm in exchanging gifts, you certainly should teach your children that it is better to give than to receive. And, you should definitely teach them that Jesus gave the greatest gift of all history, the Gift of Eternal Life! Once you understand the deliberate way in which the myth of Santa Claus was created to be a direct counterfeit of Jesus Christ, you can see that children can be easily led spiritually astray by believing in, and participating in, this story. Keep them focused on Jesus Christ. This information is just one more instance showing us that we are living in the Last Days of deceit and coldness of heart. Together with the numerous other signs of the End of the Age, this love of the Pagan (Druidic) Santa Claus is just one more clear sign of the end. Are you spiritually ready? Is your family? Are you adequately protecting your loved ones? This is the reason for this ministry, to enable you to first understand the peril facing you, and then help you develop strategies to warn and protect your loved ones. Once you have been thoroughly trained, you can also use your knowledge as a means to open the door of discussion with an unsaved person. I have been able to use it many times, and have seen people come to Jesus Christ as a result. These perilous times are also a time when we can reach many souls for Jesus Christ, making an eternal difference. If you have accepted Jesus Christ as your personal Savior, but have been very lukewarm in your spiritual walk with Him, you need to immediately ask Him for forgiveness and for renewal. He will instantly forgive you, and fill your heart with the joy of the Holy Spirit. Then, you need to begin a daily walk of prayer and personal Bible Study. If you have never accepted Jesus Christ as Savior, but have come to realize His reality and the approaching End of the Age, and want to accept His FREE Gift of Eternal Life, you can also do so now, in the privacy of your home. Once you accept Him as Savior, you are spiritually Born Again, and are as assured of Heaven as if you were already there. Then, you can rest assured that the Kingdom of Antichrist will not touch you spiritually. If you would like to become Born Again, turn to our Salvation Page now. We hope you have been blessed by this ministry, which seeks to educate and warn people, so that they can see the coming New World Order -- Kingdom of Antichrist -- in their daily news. extremely interesting. Those scriptural comparisons are true. Never saw them lined up like that before. O_O |
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User ID: 873093 United States 07/11/2010 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. Santa was allowed to survive the apocalyptic slaughter of all other spiritual beliefs by christians. Because otherwise, the "heathens" would have just continued to die. They were much more useful as slavishly obedient "followers," so the church compromised in order to force more of them to convert. No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1033154 Ireland 07/11/2010 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. Santa was allowed to survive the apocalyptic slaughter of all other spiritual beliefs by christians. Because otherwise, the "heathens" would have just continued to die. They were much more useful as slavishly obedient "followers," so the church compromised in order to force more of them to convert. Quoting: Sandi_TIn your opinion Sandi . |
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User ID: 873093 United States 07/11/2010 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. Santa was allowed to survive the apocalyptic slaughter of all other spiritual beliefs by christians. Because otherwise, the "heathens" would have just continued to die. They were much more useful as slavishly obedient "followers," so the church compromised in order to force more of them to convert. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1033154In your opinion Sandi . Uh, actually, there is all kind of proof that the church allowed many various "traditions" to thrive in order to convert so-called "heathens." The fact that the Christmas tree is an "allowed" pagan ritual for this purpose is well known. Did you just fall off the log yesterday, or do they not discuss these truths about the church where you live? No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1030651 United States 07/11/2010 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think they have a lot of similarities, particularly in the legend dept. See, Santa was based on a real person. A person that gave to the poor. Did he have a red suit, eight little reindeer, and magically fly around dropping gifts off to every child in the world? No. Man- Gave to poor. Saved a few sailors, gave hope to many. Vs. Legend- Red coat, reindeer, elves, etc. IMO, Jesus, based on a real person that existed. A person that tried to convene a different message about God. Did he turn water to wine, heal the blind, feed hundreds with one fish and loaf of bread, walk on water. Probably not. Man- Message of Peace, knowing God in different ways. Vs. Legend- water to wine, healing blind, walking on water. As any grapevine will teach us, things have a way of coming out quite differently then they went in. Santa Vs Jesus? 2 men that probably would be shocked and appalled to learn of their legends. Learn to separate the Man from the Myth. They are two separate identities. |
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