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glad to see you are working as a family unit

i have a relative dilema (not as dire though), my wife wants us to move to a scandinavian country because of all the economic turmoil here, i dont want to go but will do it for the best of my kid (5yrs old) and ultimately for the family unity

good fortune to you and your familly
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Thank you. Considering all we've been to together. I cannot see how it COULD BE the right thing to do to go without him. This tiny voice keeps saying, "wait"... I fear if we did go without him, turmoil would errupt around me somehow, and he would not be there, thus, we would not survive. Then this would be the greatest attrocity I could ever commit with my life, to leave him to end his, with that. I'm sorry for the turmoil in your country as well, and for the fears of your wife. Make the decisions together, no matter the cost in the end, at least you never let them tear you apart.
The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything’s more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again. - Achilles
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If your marriage is strong, and you believe your husband has your best interests at heart, then why second-guess him? Maybe it will be a timing issue, and when it happens you will see and understand why you had to wait. It is hard to know what the future will bring, but if your husband is not abusive and really does care about you guys, then I say keep everyone together.

My two cents.
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Yes, and thus has been the basis of my decision. You are right. It's more, as I said in my post about being aware of more than only ourselves, as it is with him and I. We are a team, us two, and then our boys with us. Take one, take all, we will fight for the last, and then stand alone against you, knowing we have truly fought the good fight. With honor. My last gift to him was the Owl tetradrachm. He is my spartan, the owl in the olive orchard, watching under the crescent moon, is proof through the ages, that a few can conquer many, and I will die at his side. I disagree with him, sometimes I hate his arrogance and pride and confidence in himself that he is greater than any other... but then, to me, he is.
The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything’s more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again. - Achilles
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... the Y2K "preparation" was an enlightening experience for me ...
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... only thing important I came to realize is right relationships ...
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... and to let go of anything that is not important ...
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Good God, Jen. Your writing has moved me to tears.

Allow me to share this poem with you that it may bring you comfort and guidance.


Mother’s Evening Prayer - by Mary Baker Eddy

O gentle presence, peace and joy and power;
O Life divine, that owns each waiting hour,
Thou Love that guards the nestling's faltering flight!
Keep Thou my child on upward wing tonight.

Love is our refuge; only with mine eye
Can I behold the snare, the pit, the fall:
His habitation high is here, and nigh,
His arm encircles me, and mine, and all.

O make me glad for every scalding tear,
For hope deferred, ingratitude, disdain!
Wait, and love more for every hate, and fear
No ill, — since God is good, and loss is gain.

Beneath the shadow of His mighty wing;
In that sweet secret of the narrow way,
Seeking and finding, with the angels sing:
"Lo, I am with you alway," — watch and pray.

No snare, no fowler, pestilence or pain;
No night drops down upon the troubled breast,
When heaven's aftersmile earth's tear-drops gain,
And mother finds her home and heav'nly rest.
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That is beautiful. "and yea tho I walk through the valley of death... I will fear no evil, for thou art with me".

I feel you, thank you for that, any and all strenth's right now, are valuable and deeply considered.

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The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything’s more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again. - Achilles
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... the Y2K "preparation" was an enlightening experience for me ...
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... only thing important I came to realize is right relationships ...
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... and to let go of anything that is not important ...
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Maybe I wasn't old enough for that to really impact me then. I just didn't care. Didn't have enough money in any accounts to care about banks. That's how shallow minded I was then. I really didn't see the whole picture. I always say, when you're 20, you think you know everything, when you're 30 something, you're sure you don't know anything at all. :)

Yes, I have lost my value of "things" as far as they go in placement of importance in my life. I think this is true for many right now. We are all being awakened to the universe around us, and suddenly, we think, together as a world, "hey, what are we doing to this place"? After all, success as a species is rated by your ability to exist without damaging your environment.
The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything’s more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again. - Achilles
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I'm going to take a ride to the ocean, see how it looks today. Clouds overhead are "dirtier" than I think I've ever seemed to notice. Kind of just hanging there, will post back this evening.
The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything’s more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again. - Achilles
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Jen:

First off, I am glad to see that you started a new thread and that it got pinned even!

Seriously, you have much to say and this way, your reports and the feedback you will need is not getting lost in the massive thread that the other one has become.

I know how you feel about wanting to be ready to clear out.
My DH is a DGI to the nth degree. Been telling him that we need to be ready to just GO before CA implodes but...he will not.

Now, I don't have any kids, don't have any other lives hanging in the balance that I am responsible for but you do.
You have a terrible choice to make but with the grace of God you will make it.

I will join prayers for you that as the Lord did with St. Joseph, an angel will come to your husband and tell him when the time has come to take you and the children and RUN.

Yeah, I feel it too. Sunset closes in around us, around this, our time, our era. This time is drawing to a close.
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This is heart wrenching. :Tears-and-tissue: I so feel for you all in the Gulf. grouphug

Our good men must be practical and pragmatic, grounded in the physical world. Society demands it or they would not thrive in the system that was designed for us. It is very touching how you respect and admire your husband. This is right relationship.

I also want you to know the power that is woman, because the grace and insight of a powerful female has saved many families. I want you to know the day will come when he will look at you with the same respect and admiration.

This despair does not serve your babies or your man. You were not given the gift of insight to become hopeless. Think far ahead... your beloved husband would be eaten alive with shame and guilt if anything happened to you or his children because he did not listen to you.

I am lovingly telling my man I am preparing to leave if it ever becomes necessary. (No we do not live in the Gulf) We have however, moved out of the city in the last few years and taken up farming. That transition unfolded by providence and not force on my part. I started to do urban homesteading while still in the city and he fell in love with the process. When an unexpected job offer came along, we were able to move with out him thinking it had anything to do with the coming "problems."

Still now, he thinks me to be totally off base about the need to be further prepared. No matter, I am storing supplies, mapping routes, and telling him he is invited to the 2013 "I told you so party." LOL That is a quote from David Wilcock.

So do just that. Set up a corner somewhere and start putting aside things you all will need. Don't hide it. Explain when asked that you have a knowing and are preparing. Sell things of yours to buy items you are lacking. If you act, you will be less hopeless. Do it with pride, but don't be prideful about it.

Bring some humor to the situation. I don't mind being the brunt of any jokes in the family. I just say, ya I know I'm a crazy old lady... you'll thank me later. This always gets a deeper longer stare.. and a moment of the person actually thinking about it.

glad to see you are working as a family unit

i have a relative dilema (not as dire though), my wife wants us to move to a scandinavian country because of all the economic turmoil here, i dont want to go but will do it for the best of my kid (5yrs old) and ultimately for the family unity

good fortune to you and your familly
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Bless your heart!! I hope your family thrives where ever you are at! grouphug

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To fix/rectify things as they are you must have an Army and or Malitia of considerable strength (numbers.)

If one were to attempt to get together such a group of people they would surely be called terrorists and prosecuted.

I personally don't believe we will be handed a society similar to GB or Ausland. I believe it will jump that chasm all together and we will be handed something with much more control of our lives.

I wish everyone the vey best, these times will indeed be difficult. FEAR not skin color or race, group together as this will prove highly essential.

Main problem here is ideology, you must ave common goals and objectives and they MUST be clear and simple.

If perhaps on is the lone Wolf type than so be it, be very very good at what you do!

I am not suggesting this is the way to go you understand, simply stating factors that my be of use.
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Jen:

First off, I am glad to see that you started a new thread and that it got pinned even!

Seriously, you have much to say and this way, your reports and the feedback you will need is not getting lost in the massive thread that the other one has become.

I know how you feel about wanting to be ready to clear out.
My DH is a DGI to the nth degree. Been telling him that we need to be ready to just GO before CA implodes but...he will not.

Now, I don't have any kids, don't have any other lives hanging in the balance that I am responsible for but you do.
You have a terrible choice to make but with the grace of God you will make it.

I will join prayers for you that as the Lord did with St. Joseph, an angel will come to your husband and tell him when the time has come to take you and the children and RUN.

Yeah, I feel it too. Sunset closes in around us, around this, our time, our era. This time is drawing to a close.
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Aw, I got a pin (blushing)... lol

I didn't know, I guess I missed it. I got a pin and didn't even see it. Well, thanks to the Mod that thought I was either a)... crazy enough to deserve it, or b)... had something to say that others could benefit from. At GLP, those two run hand in hand :) (visioning rainman and Tom Cruise)

I spent a lot of time in CA. My Daddy was a deep sea driller off of Huntington Beach in the 70's. Platform Eva and Platform Iva, for anyone who might remember them, those were the old days, Union oil... The big orange ball :)
It was always a mess in California, and now with the Hollywood guy running it all, well, see, that's another thing I don't understand. He's not from here, I don't think that's right. Now the whistle blowers will go crazy, and say I'm not from here either. But I am born of people born here of people born here. So I think I've got a vested interest see. I think that it leads to destruction when you don't have America in your foundation. If you don't have her in your foundation, you have no business running her. It obviously doesn't work, case in point, the US current state, and CA current state. With the cost you all pay there for land, housing, how the hell can you live on 7.25 min. wage? That is insanity. As he dresses in Armani suits and lives in the hills.

I'll take all the prayers I can get. If information shows that it's all going to chaos, I do believe that he will go with me. I won't allow him to be blinded by the media. I can be very loud when I want to be. I'm the kind of person people think looks... nice, until I flip, then they think I'm not so nice anymore. Nice to be a wolf in sheep's clothing. :) Somehow, I think you can relate ;)
The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything’s more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again. - Achilles
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This is heart wrenching. :Tears-and-tissue: I so feel for you all in the Gulf. grouphug

Our good men must be practical and pragmatic, grounded in the physical world. Society demands it or they would not thrive in the system that was designed for us. It is very touching how you respect and admire your husband. This is right relationship.

I also want you to know the power that is woman, because the grace and insight of a powerful female has saved many families. I want you to know the day will come when he will look at you with the same respect and admiration.

This despair does not serve your babies or your man. You were not given the gift of insight to become hopeless. Think far ahead... your beloved husband would be eaten alive with shame and guilt if anything happened to you or his children because he did not listen to you.

I am lovingly telling my man I am preparing to leave if it ever becomes necessary. (No we do not live in the Gulf) We have however, moved out of the city in the last few years and taken up farming. That transition unfolded by providence and not force on my part. I started to do urban homesteading while still in the city and he fell in love with the process. When an unexpected job offer came along, we were able to move with out him thinking it had anything to do with the coming "problems."

Still now, he thinks me to be totally off base about the need to be further prepared. No matter, I am storing supplies, mapping routes, and telling him he is invited to the 2013 "I told you so party." LOL That is a quote from David Wilcock.

So do just that. Set up a corner somewhere and start putting aside things you all will need. Don't hide it. Explain when asked that you have a knowing and are preparing. Sell things of yours to buy items you are lacking. If you act, you will be less hopeless. Do it with pride, but don't be prideful about it.

Bring some humor to the situation. I don't mind being the brunt of any jokes in the family. I just say, ya I know I'm a crazy old lady... you'll thank me later. This always gets a deeper longer stare.. and a moment of the person actually thinking about it.


glad to see you are working as a family unit

i have a relative dilema (not as dire though), my wife wants us to move to a scandinavian country because of all the economic turmoil here, i dont want to go but will do it for the best of my kid (5yrs old) and ultimately for the family unity

good fortune to you and your familly


Bless your heart!! I hope your family thrives where ever you are at! grouphug
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Thank you for the blessings MG. When I started really paying attention to the Maya, Rapa Nui, the long count, 2012, I started paying attention to the planets as well. Bought a telescope, educated myself on things I never had before. Started noticing that my kids could point out Venus to me each evening. Friends started giving me the eye. When I'd look at the sky at night, I'd get the "eye". I really thought 2012 held the key. No longer. That will be the culmination, but not the field... if you know what I mean. It's very scary, I don't pretend to have the answers. All I know is you can only push and prod so long, you kick any dog enough times, it's gonna bite you back. The world is a mighty big ass dog :)

God Bless you, and thank you. It is hard for him, he's busted his ass, spent the majority of his youth, the "young man" has been worked out... 17 hour days... often. The frusteration you feel when the town slut shows up at the baseball game, hiding beer in her cup, smoking her 7$ a pack cigarettes, and bragging about how she gets medicaid becuase she lied. "fuck it" she says. Makes me sick. We don't lie. No medicaid here. No, every spare dollar we have goes to the government for taxes we can barely keep up with. Taxes on property keeps going up, while you know damn well, property value is falling to record lows. It's sickening to him... the prospect of it having been NOT done for our safety in our older life. Now, we start again, with nothing??? Leave it all? Very very disheartening. I feel tired. Sleepy today. Fell asleep in my car. Left the boys with him for some needed rest. Got home to find a double rainbow directly over my house, and it's not been raining since this morning. I think that was better than a dozen roses. God knows me.

God Bless You MG! Don't pay attention to others... share what you have, and leave them with that. That, that's enough.
The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything’s more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again. - Achilles
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"and yea tho I walk through the valley of death... I will fear no evil, for thou art with me".

Jen:

I was talking to my sister-in-law in the Netherlands last week, and she pointed out something to me about the 23 Psalm that in my 44 years of life never even dawned on me.

When you are reading it, and you get to this part...

"He prepares a table before me IN FRONT of my enemies..."

Um...I about fell over from the Duh factor. All this time, I never realized that right in the midst of my hardest battles, God has set a table before me filled with everything I need to over come. Not to mention it would be unneighborly not to at least offer my enemies to come and sit a while and freshen up with a cool drink and a bit to nibble. :)

My sister-in-law is one of the very few people I have met that can find all of these little pearls that I have overlooked in so many of the books we have both read. I adore her :)
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To fix/rectify things as they are you must have an Army and or Malitia of considerable strength (numbers.)

If one were to attempt to get together such a group of people they would surely be called terrorists and prosecuted.

I personally don't believe we will be handed a society similar to GB or Ausland. I believe it will jump that chasm all together and we will be handed something with much more control of our lives.

I wish everyone the vey best, these times will indeed be difficult. FEAR not skin color or race, group together as this will prove highly essential.

Main problem here is ideology, you must ave common goals and objectives and they MUST be clear and simple.

If perhaps on is the lone Wolf type than so be it, be very very good at what you do!

I am not suggesting this is the way to go you understand, simply stating factors that my be of use.
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Thank you. Point taken. I am a member of the Red Dawn generation. I'm not sure what will happen to me, or my family. I remember the impact that Anne Frank's diary had on my life. Profound. I don't think I'm better than anyone because of my skin color, or worth in monetary value. I try not to judge, though it is hard not to sometimes, I believe I have a good heart. As I said once, if it all fell apart tomorrow... I would do the best I could. I could stand to lose it all, I would only ask for the biggest favor of God, please don't make me look into the eyes of my children, and see fear, and have nothing to offer. Take us first. Together. Each night for the summer, the boys stay in my room. All over the place. On the floor, as many as can fit in the bed at any given time, they are like clocks. They move and pivot, so it's miserable. But I love them, and they are close. I don't want to die with the thought of wondering where they are, and if they are afraid. I don't want to see them die afraid. I don't want to live if they don't live. These things are huge requests. These things are all that I fear. Give me those, I'll go on without complaint through the worst. Take them away, all is lost.
The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything’s more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again. - Achilles
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"and yea tho I walk through the valley of death... I will fear no evil, for thou art with me".

Jen:

I was talking to my sister-in-law in the Netherlands last week, and she pointed out something to me about the 23 Psalm that in my 44 years of life never even dawned on me.

When you are reading it, and you get to this part...

"He prepares a table before me IN FRONT of my enemies..."

Um...I about fell over from the Duh factor. All this time, I never realized that right in the midst of my hardest battles, God has set a table before me filled with everything I need to over come. Not to mention it would be unneighborly not to at least offer my enemies to come and sit a while and freshen up with a cool drink and a bit to nibble. :)

My sister-in-law is one of the very few people I have met that can find all of these little pearls that I have overlooked in so many of the books we have both read. I adore her :)
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Would you ask her for me if she remembers the prayer in the bible for bad dreams? My grandpa was a preacher. When I was 17, some friends and I used a ouija board. For a long time, I felt like something was watching me, following me. One of the 4 of us died in a terrible accident. Prayers and prayers never helped me, but he wrote me a verse from the bible. For about a week, I said it each night before I went to bed, and I slept well from then on. I have forgotten it now. I sure could use it, as sleeping for me is the worst part lately. I fear I am running myself down, when I need to be strong.

Thank you. You're very sweet. The bible says, he will direct your steps... if you lean not onto your own understanding and acknowledge him. I'm trying, I am trying. Part of me feels like it's already set in motion. I have heard that souls lined up around the galaxy to be born at this time. Hard to believe. I feel like God has turned around, his head hanging in shame at what we have done. I feel like he hears me, so I try not to ask for "things". I know God knows what I can handle, as he did Job. So I hope he will not place more upon me than I can bare. Death isn't the worst that can happen, is it? I just pray for his will to be done in my life. If his will is, that it will not be more than I can bare, well, that will be enough then. Won't it?
The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything’s more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again. - Achilles
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SO what is up in your area tonight? How was the ocean?

Somehow it feels like this is the lull...before the storm an' I don't mean Alex!!
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I just drove back from the store and the car in front of me had one of those handicap things in the windshield. I said to myself they will never survive whats coming.
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It's important that individuals break down before the actual event. If you do not then panic will take you.

No one knows the date nor time. It's not written anywhere when...only that it will.

So be prepared but still remember to live life and enjoy each day to it's fullest.
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SO what is up in your area tonight? How was the ocean?

Somehow it feels like this is the lull...before the storm an' I don't mean Alex!!
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Yes... as do I. Didn't make it down there tonight. Started raining towards Galveston, so I decided I didn't want the boys out in the rain again. I feel so uncertain about it. I feel really tired. My eyes are watering, but with some kind of fluid. Not sure. Everything looks so strange to me. The sun, like it's up too long. I know that isn't right, it's supposed to be up that long, it just looks different, I don't know why. The clouds look long and strung out and gaseous in appearance, rather than white and puffy.... I took pictures of the clouds, I will add them. My son called, why I left in the beginning, he felt uneasy and afraid. Said the air smelled funny and he felt light headed. And the rainbows... there hadn't been rain, for hours, and they were here when I got home. The clouds were reflective of red hues, and the sun wasn't setting yet. I will upload the pics after I lie down. My family in the east is calling me constantly. I'm not answering, tired of stressing, so I need to call them back. My middle son is coughing, sounds terrible. Again, un-normal for this time of year. The baby felt sick to his tummy after we ate~ I can't tell if it's my mind getting away with me, or if it's the effects of gas in the air?
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Thank you for the blessings MG. When I started really paying attention to the Maya, Rapa Nui, the long count, 2012, I started paying attention to the planets as well. Bought a telescope, educated myself on things I never had before. Started noticing that my kids could point out Venus to me each evening. Friends started giving me the eye. When I'd look at the sky at night, I'd get the "eye". I really thought 2012 held the key. No longer. That will be the culmination, but not the field... if you know what I mean. It's very scary, I don't pretend to have the answers. All I know is you can only push and prod so long, you kick any dog enough times, it's gonna bite you back. The world is a mighty big ass dog :)

God Bless you, and thank you. It is hard for him, he's busted his ass, spent the majority of his youth, the "young man" has been worked out... 17 hour days... often. The frusteration you feel when the town slut shows up at the baseball game, hiding beer in her cup, smoking her 7$ a pack cigarettes, and bragging about how she gets medicaid becuase she lied. "fuck it" she says. Makes me sick. We don't lie. No medicaid here. No, every spare dollar we have goes to the government for taxes we can barely keep up with. Taxes on property keeps going up, while you know damn well, property value is falling to record lows. It's sickening to him... the prospect of it having been NOT done for our safety in our older life. Now, we start again, with nothing??? Leave it all? Very very disheartening. I feel tired. Sleepy today. Fell asleep in my car. Left the boys with him for some needed rest. Got home to find a double rainbow directly over my house, and it's not been raining since this morning. I think that was better than a dozen roses. God knows me.

God Bless You MG! Don't pay attention to others... share what you have, and leave them with that. That, that's enough.
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A double rainbow! Sunny :floating-hearts: Wonderful! I am glad you got some sleep. Ya know, the way so many men have worked and left their families to be over worked to is just wrong. have compassion for each other.

Would you ask her for me if she remembers the prayer in the bible for bad dreams? My grandpa was a preacher. When I was 17, some friends and I used a ouija board. For a long time, I felt like something was watching me, following me. One of the 4 of us died in a terrible accident. Prayers and prayers never helped me, but he wrote me a verse from the bible. For about a week, I said it each night before I went to bed, and I slept well from then on. I have forgotten it now. I sure could use it, as sleeping for me is the worst part lately. I fear I am running myself down, when I need to be strong.

Thank you. You're very sweet. The bible says, he will direct your steps... if you lean not onto your own understanding and acknowledge him. I'm trying, I am trying. Part of me feels like it's already set in motion. I have heard that souls lined up around the galaxy to be born at this time. Hard to believe. I feel like God has turned around, his head hanging in shame at what we have done. I feel like he hears me, so I try not to ask for "things". I know God knows what I can handle, as he did Job. So I hope he will not place more upon me than I can bare. Death isn't the worst that can happen, is it? I just pray for his will to be done in my life. If his will is, that it will not be more than I can bare, well, that will be enough then. Won't it?
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Jen, I wish I could wrap you in some peace of mind. All *I* can do with any of this nonsense is try my best to stay in the moment. EVERY time the mind starts to imagine the worst, bring it back to right here, right now. No easy task under stress, I know.

Tell us your dreams, if you are having nightmares. They have a meaning.
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all i see is wahhhh
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Thank you. Even if you don't have anything to say right now, I hope you'll be aware... I hope you'll open your eyes.
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wtshtf tptb will flood the U.S. with Chinese peacekeepers...tens of millions of them.


don't make the mistake thinking that they don't have a workable plan.

it will get interesting.

we win in the end.
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Jen...you seem like the type of person I would have for a friend. That said, a person like you would have a good hearted husband.

My husband has been unemployed for months. I watch him go through pain daily, feeling like he is not adaquately providing for our family. Please, I do not mean to act as if I know the pain you and your husband are going through. However, I am sure your husband is experiencing fear in letting go of all he has done to provide for you and your boys. Maybe you should let him know that you know this is really hard on him.

However, your children's safety has got to come first. Consider telling him it would be best for you to take your boys to your relatives in the north for a summer vacation. He can follow you when or if he feels there is nothing more he can do to hold on to everything you have worked for.

A man traveling north alone can make it there faster than a man traveling with a wife and two children and it would be far safer for you to go now with your children. Don't wait for a forced evacuation. Maybe you could even ask him to take some time away and take you there. He can return home afterwards if he still feels the need to do so. If nothing big happens, you can return when it is safe to do so. It doesn't have to be a threat to your husband...you can both compromise and both of you can feel better.
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Its us that gives away our rights and freedoms when we get scared and lazy. Us=human collective.
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MotherGoose.

What a wonderful gesture, putting this particular song here. I hope it gives spiritual strength to Jen and many others who may be here and need something to allow them to feel the grace that's out there for them during these times.

This was the song I put on a website dedicated to the final adoption of my little girl after a year and a half of struggle in the adoption court system. I used to listen to this song every evening before bed to help me to get into a place where I could sleep, when I was in a constant state of worry. My little girl got to the place where the song would instantly calm her when she was upset, and she would fall asleep. Now that she is 2 1/2 I have not listened for a few months. Thanks for bringing it back to my mind and heart.

I hope the song gives Jen some solace.
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Thank you, Jen!!! The words in your OP represent the feelings of many of us. You have found the words for them, word for very true word.
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MotherGoose.

What a wonderful gesture, putting this particular song here. I hope it gives spiritual strength to Jen and many others who may be here and need something to allow them to feel the grace that's out there for them during these times.

This was the song I put on a website dedicated to the final adoption of my little girl after a year and a half of struggle in the adoption court system. I used to listen to this song every evening before bed to help me to get into a place where I could sleep, when I was in a constant state of worry. My little girl got to the place where the song would instantly calm her when she was upset, and she would fall asleep. Now that she is 2 1/2 I have not listened for a few months. Thanks for bringing it back to my mind and heart.

I hope the song gives Jen some solace.
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Ohh I am so glad this touched your heart. It sure does mine. Thank you for sharing your inspiring story. Bless you and your family! Sunny grouphug
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Jen...you seem like the type of person I would have for a friend. That said, a person like you would have a good hearted husband.

My husband has been unemployed for months. I watch him go through pain daily, feeling like he is not adaquately providing for our family. Please, I do not mean to act as if I know the pain you and your husband are going through. However, I am sure your husband is experiencing fear in letting go of all he has done to provide for you and your boys. Maybe you should let him know that you know this is really hard on him.

However, your children's safety has got to come first. Consider telling him it would be best for you to take your boys to your relatives in the north for a summer vacation. He can follow you when or if he feels there is nothing more he can do to hold on to everything you have worked for.

A man traveling north alone can make it there faster than a man traveling with a wife and two children and it would be far safer for you to go now with your children. Don't wait for a forced evacuation. Maybe you could even ask him to take some time away and take you there. He can return home afterwards if he still feels the need to do so. If nothing big happens, you can return when it is safe to do so. It doesn't have to be a threat to your husband...you can both compromise and both of you can feel better.
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I don't know. I don't know anymore. I don't know what to do. I don't know what is right.

Oil is on our Texas beaches today. It's not the little tar balls that scare me. No, far more. It's what's in that water that I can't see that bothers me. The air is so thick with lies, I can't even breathe anymore.

The thing I have gathered as true, the past few days, while trying to make preparations of my own to be ready when no one else is... BP is running it all, aren't they! Even now, with all the bs promises from the govt. BP is still running it all.

"We'll pay the bill", says BP. We just want to live, the lives we built... you cannot pay for that! Like the credit card commercial you assholes, it's PRICELESS!

I can't help but wonder what is going on today. I saw a plane go into the clouds overhead, just only for a moment, because it was the most silent plane I've ever heard (didn't hear it at all)... just happened to look up and there it was, about to go into the cloud cover. It was white and looked like the space shuttle. Very quiet. My first thought was what's a drone doing up there. I said, "hey"... then I didn't yell for anyone anymore. After all, I don't want the "look" today, because I'm not in the mood for it. I'm not crazy, everyone else is stupid! Tartars! They'll know in the end, they never got the truth. I know now. So, I'm ahead of the game... lol, right! Shortly after that, two fighter jets went by, then two more, straight North, from the gulf, then making a sharp, western turn, no ideas. I never feel good when I see that. Those planes look scary as hell to me. Wonder what they're up to, and even more, I wonder why no one else does.

Just found out BP released 50,000 pounds of chemicals, including benzene on the 6th of April. On the 7th of April, I got so sick, wound up with pneumonia. Thought I would surely die, the sickest I've ever been in my life. Guess the two have nothing to do with each other, right? lol, sure! Sure thing. The United States of BP! Still???, still...!!! I'm just disgusted!
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Its us that gives away our rights and freedoms when we get scared and lazy. Us=human collective.
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Seeing people arrested for "terrorism" and the like, for speaking out against attrocities helps too! Let's not forget that part. Lets not forget all the secret ops that make people afraid. Lets not forget that we are supposed to have politicians that are paid to "voice our concerns and make them heard"... then again, that would lead back to representation, OF WHICH WE'VE GONE BROKE PAYING FOR REPRESENTATION! Of which we have none. So we're a little confused, but lazy??? I'm not sure I agree with all of your post, some, but not all. There's a hell of a line between lazy and fear, and in this country, there's a whole lot more proof of fear than pigish laziness.
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Anyone remember what Matt Simmons said would happen if oil got into the Bolivar Peninsula? Because it's there.
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