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Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!

 
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Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? THIS IS A BAD FUCKING IDEA!!!

Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!! Do you want your house and everything that's in it plundered?

Unless your home is under threat of a natural disaster, STAY PUT!!!

STAND UP against the powers that be! Protect your PROPERTY!

Isn't this what we are SUPPOSED TO BE DOING?

WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO FLEE AWAY LIKE COWARDS!!!


HELLO!!!???
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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
That's my plan too.
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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? THIS IS A BAD FUCKING IDEA!!!

Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!! Do you want your house and everything that's in it plundered?

Unless your home is under threat of a natural disaster, STAY PUT!!!

STAND UP against the powers that be! Protect your PROPERTY!

Isn't this what we are SUPPOSED TO BE DOING?

WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO FLEE AWAY LIKE COWARDS!!!


HELLO!!!???
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Many in Berlin chose the same path when the Nazis took over.
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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
Um... how about because it would be the National Guard, FEMA, and SWAT that people would be fleeing from, and it would be physically impossible to defend your home from all of them even if you had Koresh-style defenses times ten?

And because if you want to avoid being killed by thugs, it makes sense that the first place they will come looking for you is AT YOUR ADDRESS?
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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? THIS IS A BAD FUCKING IDEA!!!

Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!! Do you want your house and everything that's in it plundered?

Unless your home is under threat of a natural disaster, STAY PUT!!!

STAND UP against the powers that be! Protect your PROPERTY!

Isn't this what we are SUPPOSED TO BE DOING?

WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO FLEE AWAY LIKE COWARDS!!!


HELLO!!!???


Many in Berlin chose the same path when the Nazis took over.
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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
Um... how about because it would be the National Guard, FEMA, and SWAT that people would be fleeing from, and it would be physically impossible to defend your home from all of them even if you had Koresh-style defenses times ten?

And because if you want to avoid being killed by thugs, it makes sense that the first place they will come looking for you is AT YOUR ADDRESS?
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They will meet a another thug.
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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
Um... how about because it would be the National Guard, FEMA, and SWAT that people would be fleeing from, and it would be physically impossible to defend your home from all of them even if you had Koresh-style defenses times ten?

And because if you want to avoid being killed by thugs, it makes sense that the first place they will come looking for you is AT YOUR ADDRESS?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1006234


And you think you will be able to defend yourself from them on foot?

The point is, there's really no difference how you are going to get KILLED...

They're gonna find you, whether you are at home, or in the "wilderness".....the only thing that matters is how you "check out".....do you want it "standing up" or on your "fucking knees"....

THINK ABOUT IT...
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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
If a "survivalist" is in an area of outgassing it is best to "leave the area immediately" but those who do not understand outgassing from toxic fumes/gases/poisons might want to dig their obstinate heels in...unlikely they will win this battle or the war, just get an easy out...


Those who understand and are truly survivalists have likely already set up a few spots...and if they haven't it was likely due to cost...



Taking a stand is one thing, throwing your life down for a lost field of dying ground...is not necessarily the wisest choice


OUTGASSING

Methane and Natural gas, add the benzenes...not a good cocktail


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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
recovery of a hurricane is one thing


This, is completely more VOLATILE than Katrina...and hurricanes still may bring these problems even more front and center...


If all the country were standing it would also be one thing-against tyranny...but I am not seeing that...most will stay seated until they are directly threatened and then they are at a disadvantage...
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fortitudo et spes
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When Japan happened I responded: "The Excrement Has Impacted the Rotary Oscillator." and clearly it has.
Thread: The Excrement Is Striking the Rotary Oscillator
+++++++++++++++
"Ego et Dominus sumus amici"
+++++++++++++++
Ego et mea umbra
+++++++++++++++

'Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. This kind of liberal orientation has great appeal. We must electrically control the brain. Some day armies and generals will be controlled by electric stimulation of the brain.’
- U.S. government mind manipulator, Dr. Jose Delgado, Congressional Record, No. 262E, Vol. 118, 1974
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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
Um... how about because it would be the National Guard, FEMA, and SWAT that people would be fleeing from, and it would be physically impossible to defend your home from all of them even if you had Koresh-style defenses times ten?

And because if you want to avoid being killed by thugs, it makes sense that the first place they will come looking for you is AT YOUR ADDRESS?
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I am more able to defend my house than a debri shelter in a wood.

Some of us may be more like Jose Wales, a guerrilla fighter, but some are better at hunkering down, maybe to cover your retreat???
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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
If a "survivalist" is in an area of outgassing it is best to "leave the area immediately" but those who do not understand outgassing from toxic fumes/gases/poisons might want to dig their obstinate heels in...unlikely they will win this battle or the war, just get an easy out...


Those who understand and are truly survivalists have likely already set up a few spots...and if they haven't it was likely due to cost...



Taking a stand is one thing, throwing your life down for a lost field of dying ground...is not necessarily the wisest choice


OUTGASSING

Methane and Natural gas, add the benzenes...not a good cocktail


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If you read the post, you would understand that OP said, only IF YOU WERE NOT UNDER THREAT OF NATURAL DISASTER, then you should stay HOME!!!
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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
Attempting to defend a fixed position is no longer feasible.....as it was many, many years ago. Even Gen Patton knew this. You have to keep on the move.

Just look at the fighters in places like Afghanistan or Vietnam.....or even our Revolutionary War. If you want to fight.....it has to be guerrilla warfare. If you would rather not be involved in this.....just hide out for awhile in the boonies.

The smart people closed down the bread shop,,,,,,,and got the hell out of Berlin in time.
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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
Yeah, unless my house is being destroyed or i lived in a major city, I'm not bugging out anywhere.
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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
Yeah, unless my house is being destroyed or i lived in a major city, I'm not bugging out anywhere.
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Then you had better band together with your neighbors and prepare a bit......so that you can help each other out.



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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
Very short term to avoid radiation, flooding, the such, yes.

Long term survival, hunkering down if you are trying to keep a family alive is the only option or you will eventually starve to death.

Long wolf can go in the wild, not if you are trying to protect and feed a family with children. Teach them to shoot, set up crossfire kill zones and booby traps.
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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? THIS IS A BAD FUCKING IDEA!!!

Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!! Do you want your house and everything that's in it plundered?

Unless your home is under threat of a natural disaster, STAY PUT!!!

STAND UP against the powers that be! Protect your PROPERTY!

Isn't this what we are SUPPOSED TO BE DOING?

WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO FLEE AWAY LIKE COWARDS!!!


HELLO!!!???
 Quoting: Where are you going? 985813



Because of the toxic Hydrogen Sulfide and Benzene fumes maybe? spock
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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
Fight or flight at the right place stay put and fight. Florida = your not at the right place. Get a bit more inland.
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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
yea, stay put and suffocate from all the toxic air dumb ass. sockpuppet
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yea, stay put and suffocate from all the toxic air dumb ass. sockpuppet
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Normally I would agree with this OP but this is different. HOW the hell do you take a stand against a Methane cloud? acid rain? A tital wave? Your guns, gold and beans will not help. Your attitude will not help! You'll be just as dead!! For your KIDS SAKE, plan a way out, and then figure out for yourself at what point you execute that plan!
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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? THIS IS A BAD FUCKING IDEA!!!

Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!! Do you want your house and everything that's in it plundered?

Unless your home is under threat of a natural disaster, STAY PUT!!!

STAND UP against the powers that be! Protect your PROPERTY!

Isn't this what we are SUPPOSED TO BE DOING?

WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO FLEE AWAY LIKE COWARDS!!!


HELLO!!!???
 Quoting: Where are you going? 985813

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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
Your mistake is thinking you OWN anything. Your home is within you.

That said, I'd stay put and be mentally & physically prepared to move. ufo56
When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.

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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
Your mistake is thinking you OWN anything. Your home is within you.

That said, I'd stay put and be mentally & physically prepared to move. ufo56
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^^THIS^^
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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
you people are really out there, or is it that you are trying to start chaos when there isn't any? some attemt to get shit started? only people who have any reason to consider moving are on the gulf coast, but that is not what you are talking about, is it? your plan is to weaken american spirit, innit? fucking commies, anything that might work huh?
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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
Survivalist want to Bug Out so they can show off and use all their survival gear and guns they've collected.
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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
Not all of us live in a land of plenty where you can live off the wildlife or a fertile soil. Plus I'm a female pushing 60 FFS. I can't do Rambo!
I live in a small semi rural community and my resources are friends and neighbours.
Only a total environmental disaster can shift me. You can't fight against poisoned air and water.
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Re: Why are survivalists urging people to LEAVE THEIR HOME already??? BAD IDEA...Why not TAKE A STAND and STAY HOME!!!
I'm not a home owner so I'm going to buy a travel trailer and stay in the city until I lost my job (account manager for big telecom company)...
Total Protonic Reversal...





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