Lake Erie Lights...could chump hoaxters ruin 150 years of paranormal history? | |
Michael Lee Hill
User ID: 1003727 United States 06/15/2010 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny, I gave almost everything in that story regarding the activity over the Lake to John Lasker, funny how it all works out huh? Here is the thread I started here at GLP regarding the 150 year Lake Erie UFO history years ago Thread: Lake Erie: UFOs, Alien Bases, and the Wizard Lights So this John Lasker takes my research and claims it as his own? and then has the balls to Insinuate I am not being truthful? I also gave the 1988 Eastlake story (My hometown) to John Lasker and the History Channel and I shared it here at GLP long ago as well... Thread: Lake Erie area UFO activity Timeline It is wierd to see somebody hijacking my research than slandering me ya know? John Lasker is basing his info from ATS which they have been proven to be wrong, the fact that hundreds of people are now seeing and witnessing the UFO's over Lake Erie thrills me to no end, They are all describing the exact same thing I have filmed and some have filmed the exact same thing as I have as well. The best in the UFO field no I have hoaxed nothing and have backed my footage as legit, people like Dan Akroyd, Bill Birnes, David Sereda, CBS News, The History Channel, Jaime Maussan, Etc, the list just goes on. The only ones who have claimed I hoaxed anything is ATS The guy from ATS who banned me and labeled my footage a hoax has admitted he banned me because he felt I was being a smart ass with him and he "Thought" I was filming a planes as well, As soon as I defended myself and told him how the theory the were planes coming into Hopkins couldn't be correct because they were traveling the opposite dierction? and some 40 miles away? and the the two objects flew away in two seperate directions? He didn't want to hear any of that and he instantly benned me and now I have John Lasker acting like ATS is the final word on it. Hardly. I have stated before, Actually I think it is a crime that ATS can get away with this. One day the owner of ATS instant message me and said just admit what you filmed is planes coming in for a landing at Hopkins airport, I was like Hey dude, I know you are not from here but whatever these objects are they are NOT coming into Cleveland Hopkins Airport because I am 40 miles east of Hopkins Airport and these craft were traveling in the opposite direction "East", away from Cleveland so there was no way in hell i would ever admit that because it doesn't even make any sense? The next Instant message from him said and by the way, You are using "Qoutes" to much. I was kinda new to the whole messgae board thing at this point so I asked what are you talking about? He said stop using "qoutes", you are using up by server space, I said you mean the qoute button that is built into your message board to respond to somebodies question? He musta thought i was being a smart ass because the very next instant I was banned and he labled all my footage a "Hoax", Now I still have people bringing this up and i have to defend myself over & over because some asshat decided to unfairly label my footage a hoax? Believe what you will. I guess that is what ATS is here for, To keep people away from the TRUTH. UFO NEWS then looked into the matter and came to the exact same conclusion... Lake Erie UFO: A Closer Examination What is depicted in the picture above? Is it two jets several miles apart from each other? Or two police cars several yards apart from each other? Or is it what each of us want it to be? UFO NEWS - On February 6th we posted Michael Lee Hill's UFO video captured on August 18th, 2006 on the shores of Lake Erie. Six days later it has generated a heated debate in the post's comments. Many skeptics believe the lights pictured above are two distant jets coming at us in a landing pattern - appearing to hover. Other skeptics say these are two police cars driving across a hill at night - on parallel roads with distance forcing the perspective. We don't think so. 1) Michael Lee Hill tells us he shot this in Eastlake, Ohio. In this topo map of the area you will see no hills near or across the shoreline. 2) If these aircraft are flying towards Eastlake then we can only find two destinations, Lost Nation Municipal Airport and Cuyahoga County Airport. Neither of these airports look the part for what would be obviously BIG planes on approach. 3) If these aircraft were coming in to Cleveland Airport they would be traveling from right to left. 4) In the frame grab above shouldn't there be an appreciable size difference between two aircraft of this size, miles apart — even with the alleged mirage affect? UFO NEWS believes these two 'things' are flying about 20 feet apart from each other. If anyone would like to further debunk this sighting I believe we must begin with these new ideas. - UFO NEWS Here is the actual message that "Springer" (ATS Owner) posted regarding why he banned me... "Secondly, he just pissed me off with his snide comeback to my "Trim Quotes" post. And the guy who thinks that's a "GAY" reason to ban someone, well I really don't care what you think." - Springer Forzenthought was banned because of two reasons: First and foremost he is perpetuating a HOAX and hoping to stir up buzz for a DVD they plan to sell of that HOAX by using our site to get the attention of the MILLIONS of PEOPLE who come here. SkepticOverlord, Simon Gray and I DO NOT work our butts off keeping ATS up and constantly growing so HOAXERS can advertise their tripe FOR FREE. Secondly, he just pissed me off with his snide comeback to my "Trim Quotes" post. And the guy who thinks that's a "GAY" reason to ban someone, well I really don't care what you think but I'll say that the day YOU go build a site with a database in the TERABYTES and keep it fast and don't care about how many times it has to reproduce THE SAME THING is the day I'll ask YOU how you did it. ;) Source - [link to www.nolink4_you.com] Peace, Michael Last Edited by Michael Lee Hill on 06/15/2010 03:42 PM |
Michael Lee Hill
User ID: 1003727 United States 06/15/2010 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The facts are the FAA, Burke and Cleveland Hopkins Airports said they are not normal flight paths and they were tracking nothing on radar... The UK Ministry of Defense has revealed regarding these "Pulsating Orbs of Lights" showing up over Lake erie, Utah, Mexaico, The Uk, Pheonix, Tesas, Etc. Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) in the UK Air Defence Region The Ministry of Defence has released this report in response to a Freedom of Information request and we are pleased to now make it available to a wider audience via the MOD Freedom of Information Publication Scheme. Where indicated information is withheld in accordance with Section 26 (Defence), Section 27 (International Relations) and Section 40 (Personal Information) of the Freedom of Information Act 2000. [link to www.mod.uk] That Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP or UFO) Exist is indisputable. Credited with the ability to hover, land, take off, accelerate to astonishing velocities and vanish. They can reportedly alter their direction of flight suddenly and clearly can exhibit aerodynamics characteristics well beyond those of any known aircraft or missile - either manned or unmanned. The Conditions for the initial formation and sustaining of what are apparently buoyant charged masses (of Plasma), which can form, separate, merge, hover, climb, dive, and accelerate are not completely understood. Dependent on a color's temperature and aerosol density, it may be seen visually, either by it self generated plasma color, by reflected light, or silhouette by light blockage and background contrast. Occasionally and perhaps exceptionally, it seems a field with, undetermined characteristics can exist between certain charged buoyant objects in loose formation, the intervening space between them forms an area, viewed as a shape, often Triangular, from which the reflection of light does not occur. This is a key finding in the attribution of what have frequently been called black "Craft", often triangular and up to hundreds of feet in length. - The UK Ministry of Defence Bigelow Aerospace , a leader in Aerospace research has revealed about these "Pulsating Orbs of Light/plasma UFO's" A pulsating spherical ball of light. The light appears bluish to a yellow green glow. The light it casts is not extremely bright but will cast light on objects immediately surrounding the orb. Typically there is more than 1 orbs gathered. They have the ability to hover and make no noise. There appears to be no physical shape supporting these orbs. A characteristic feature is that they will pulsate their light intensity for a matter of seconds growing extremely bright, and then fading away to nothing as if the object simply vanished. Apparently these have been witnessed during the day but are more visible at night. Have been seen transforming into other animal shapes and is suspected of having the ability to transmorph into the shape of local living animals. Can affect other electrical objects and knocked out the power to the ranch house. Shift between a visible and invisible state as they pulsate on and off. These are intelligent and purposeful like in nature. I suspect they are some sort of transportation vehicles for another intelligence or the drones for this intelligence. They have a role of observing. They are unique in that they appear almost curious about any humans they come across. They seem to easily detect your presence, and may be influenced by meditative thoughts/requests. I believe their function is to observe, report, and to transport either consciousness, or actual entities within them, as if some form of vessel. This is the most interactive of all the anomalies on the ranch and will pursue and entertain its viewers. The flash drones (A pulsating spherical ball of light) tend to take on a more interactive role if the observer is alone. Possess the ability to generate a state of uncontrollable "panic" in those targeted, Witnessed working in groups in a predator/prey fashion. The sensation of being hit by one is described as being hit by a high velocity warm water balloon. The after effects of which immediately evaporate away. However a state of depression typically follows lasting for days to weeks. Although speculative, the light may only travel in a light-off configuration. When the light is visible, the object appears stationary, however it disappears, only to reappear in a different location. This postulates that the light may possibly be "phasing" in and out from one location to the next. Artificial or biological like intelligence. Potentially an animal like intelligence. The light radiated is seen in a 180 degree manner and does not cast light behind. Duration for sightings 1 to 45 minutes Source - [link to www.skinwalkerranch.org] According to Erlikh, at approximately 6:45pm EST, on Thursday night (April 8, 2010) a private telephone call came into his residence. Eugene answered and the man on the other end assumed to know it was Eugene and called him by name. The man identified himself as a member of Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies. He did give his name and email that is, in fact, linked to the BAASS.ORG domain name. He asked Eugene a number of questions pertaining to the sightings over Lake Erie. The man then demanded Eugene give up the exact coordinates of the location the lights are appearing. When Eugene questioned the man, he stated he knew the lights were not terrestrial or from this planet and there's big money involved in obtaining that technology. He instructed Eugene to email him the coordinates. Eugene immediately hung up the telephone. The host of the Radio show then E-mailed this BAASS Investigator and asked, "Hey, why are you guys calling Egene when Mufon already Stated that these are just Airplanes "Case Closed"?" This is his actual response. In Regards to the Lights over Lake Erie I am not absolutely convinced that they are coming from conventional aircraft. As an investigator I must be completly objective with any UFO's reported which has multiple witnesses. BAASS employees are paid professionals, all the investigators are former law enforcement detectives who have a higher level set of skills and experience. MUFON Takes anyone who pays the money and passes the test and works for free. That does not make them a credible source for information for me to except they're conclusions. - Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies Investigator Believe what you will, you can keep on believing they are planes, that opinion means nothing to me because obviosly I have taken the time to actually look into the subject where you Shills and debunkers have not....As Usual. Peace, Michael |
Michael Lee Hill
User ID: 1003727 United States 06/15/2010 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ask ATS did I travel all over the world and hoax all the following footage as well? footage that all shows the exact same craft? EXCLUSIVE!!!-UFO IN MOSCOW ON DECEMBER,21st,2009 at 22:01 And the folling exact same UFO's Have appeared in Moscow UFO and the Nightingale in Moscow on May,19,th,2010 at 03:06 And Over India! |
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Michael Lee Hill
User ID: 1003727 United States 06/15/2010 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Michael, I saw the UFO Hunters show last night and have followed all of this closely - I don't think that you are hoaxing. Quoting: FiatLux 996933Peace to you Thank You for your support. I didn't know they re-aired that episode last night, thats cool! by the way as you seen in that episode, the History channel Verfied the lights in my footage do not match any known FAA lights in configuration or color output as well. You have a good judge of character because I have not hoaxed anything :-) Peace, Michael Last Edited by Michael Lee Hill on 06/15/2010 03:30 PM |
Michael Lee Hill
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