The Rapture and the Second Coming are two seperate events | |
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Rev. Moon Jew
User ID: 798834 United States 05/22/2010 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read Matthew 24 Yashuah tells us exactly what to look for and what will happen never once does he mention a seperate "rapture" event stop following he doctrines of men "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
Rev. Moon Jew
User ID: 798834 United States 05/22/2010 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry - double post Last Edited by Mrs. Smith on 05/22/2010 02:26 PM "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
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User ID: 978356 United States 05/22/2010 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would like to make one observation. You wrote about the "days of Noah" in reference to the general attitudes of the populace: "Here Jesus speaks of the how the days will be like that of Noah and His coming would be unexpected. Many have mistakenly interpreted this passage to be in reference to the rapture. However, the subjects of the illustration are important. In the days of Noah, it was the unrighteous who were not looking for the Lord and went about as they pleased. These people were swept away in the flood while righteous Noah and his family were all that remained. The coming of the Lord will be like the flood and will sweep away the wicked." Quoting: keeplookinup 853973I would like to point out a very interesting point made by Chuck Missler (source: [link to www.khouse.org] He refers to the same scripture and poses some very interesting and plausible theories. Basically, in the days of Noah, the Nephilim were a hugely prevalent race brought on by Satan mingling with humans. The very reason for the flood was to cleanse our DNA! In order for Jesus to have a clean blood lineage, this had to take place. The link I provided gives a very intelligent synopsis of what I believe are the most probable meanings to these particular scriptures as well as explaining what seems to be a very odd action by God (causing/allowing the flood). Last Edited by YHWHer on 05/22/2010 02:51 PM Jesus is the man! |
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User ID: 925088 Australia 05/23/2010 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the coming does not mean he sets foot on earth straight away the literal rendering is "presence of the lord" not "coming" of the lord, and the context is the presence of the lord with his saints paul said in thessalonians that the day of christ will not come until the man of sin is revealed first when is the day of the lord? REV 6:12 And I saw when he opened the sixth seal, and lo, a great earthquake came, and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood, REV 6:13 and the stars of the heaven fell to the earth -- as a fig-tree doth cast her winter figs, by a great wind being shaken --.................... REV 6:16 and they say to the mountains and to the rocks, `Fall upon us, and hide us from the face of Him who is sitting upon the throne, and from the anger of the Lamb,' REV 6:17 because come did the great day of His anger, and who is able to stand? the day of the lord starts here and is not a 24 hour day, but a period of time christ is not mentioned as coming to the earth here but is seen in the heavens, this is the parrallel to matthew 24 when the saints are gathered which is seen in revelation 7 1THESS 4:15 for this to you we say in the word of the Lord, that we who are living -- who do remain over to the coming of the Lord -- may not precede those asleep, 1THESS 4:16 because the Lord himself, in a shout, in the voice of a chief-messenger, and in the trump of God, shall come down from heaven, and the dead in Christ shall rise first, 1THESS 4:17 then we who are living, who are remaining over, together with them shall be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in air, and so always with the Lord we shall be; 1THESS 4:18 so, then, comfort ye one another in these words. as you can see here the "coming" and "catching up" are on the same day, they cannot be seperated, and following this Gods wrath begins the 6th seal signs are after the tribulation of those days, after the man of sin is revealed |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 978251 United States 05/23/2010 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are two separate events. They are both fantasies but they are two separate fantasies. Actually the rapture isn't even in the bible. Not anywhere. It was all thought up by British Christian zionists to fool everyone. You know ... like you guys. |
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User ID: 925088 Australia 05/23/2010 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2nd coming, day of the lord, rapture all start on the same day 1 thess 4 makes it clear beyond doubt that the "coming" and "catching up" happen on the same day, yet pre tribbers deliberately ignore this WHY? in other words the sky is brown and 2+2= 7 the day of the lord will be an unknown day and hour because christ said this; MT 24:22 And if those days were not shortened, no flesh would have been saved; but because of the chosen, shall those days be shortened. the tribulation period will be cut short , meaning that christ comes for his saints before the end of the last 42 months which is why we cannot set dates or times jesus said the day of the lord will be like lot leaving sodom and fire raining down, also like the flood in noahs time LK 17:29 and on the day Lot went forth from Sodom, He rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed all. LK 17:27 they were eating, they were drinking, they were marrying, they were given in marriage, till the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the deluge came, and destroyed all; LK 17:30 `According to these things it shall be, in the day the Son of Man is revealed; there will be qa parallel to the above when the day of the lord starts at the 6th seal with the first 2 trumpet judgments REV 8:7 and the first messenger did sound, and there came hail and fire, mingled with blood, and it was cast to the land, and the third of the trees was burnt up, and all the green grass was burnt up. REV 8:8 And the second messenger did sound, and as it were a great mountain with fire burning was cast into the sea, and the third of the sea became blood, REV 8:9 and die did the third of the creatures that `are' in the sea, those having life, and the third of the ships were destroyed. this would without a doubt cause massive floods and would also serve to put out the fires previously, because there will not be any rain because of the 2 witnesses |
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User ID: 925088 Australia 05/23/2010 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are two separate events. They are both fantasies but they are two separate fantasies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 978251Actually the rapture isn't even in the bible. Not anywhere. It was all thought up by British Christian zionists to fool everyone. You know ... like you guys. forget the word rapture then it doesn't matter call it "gathering" or "catching up" which are in the bible |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 628002 Canada 05/23/2010 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For all you ignorant ones the rapture is not what you think. The ones raptured actually donot go to heaven. They go to over third dimensional worlds to continue growing spiritually. The ones who are ready to ascend will continue on in the 5th dimension on earth. This is when heaven comes to earth and it will happen before mid 2013. Many ancient civilizations did know the timing of this event. If you are an ignorant christian or fooolish muslim now is the time to take giant steps out of your beliefs. Angry, fearful and ignirant people will not ascend. No God ever judges anyone as you do this yourself in spirit. You will either be ready to ascend soon or you won't. Do not worry about family members or others. Get your own thought right and grow a loving heart before it is too late. The so called religous and rightous ones will be leaving here in larger numbers than the people in jail. Tghe dark ones have infiltrated your churches, corporations and governments. Forget about the New World order as these scum have controlled you like sheep for 12,000 years now. Most were just to stupid or busy to realize their lives are not about liberty and freedom. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 756674 Canada 05/23/2010 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is NO rapture. There are two meaning of 2nd Coming, one being the coming to God knowingness to human, which isn't there anywhere near yet, and the other is an actual return of the many masters which will occur later. The Rapture is completely misunderstood. There are two it is confused with. #1 is actual evacuation of a sick planet, and all are offered this but many will not board craft or not survive the beam to get them on craft. The other is that at the end of EVERY age, and we are at those times, the evolving souls are sorted for who fails and who is successful and the successful go to the heaven worlds at some point. Any soul since the pouring of the Spirit of Truth, who reaches 3rd circle spirituality goes directly to "heaven" upon death, without having to wait until the end of an age. The end of an age is a judgement time for a civilization and we didn't do very well. Planets are always cleansed and a new civilization started at the end of every age. yea are all reincarnating since 13000 years ago, the last end of the age, whose souls came into being during this time. You now face judgement as to progress and are sorted up, down or laterally according to the level of your soul. robot peoples are cleansed completely from the planet as they pass. They rarely get father fragments, they are automatons. |
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