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A message for all from a..........

 
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Hi Love-

It's been a while! Your post could not have come at a better time. While through much of this transition I have found myself to be rather strong, days of late have been just the opposite. Much of it having to do with your OP. Timing can be everything, as such is the case here so my gratitude for this. There have been a lot of interesting points made thus far.

Firstly, I couldn't agree with you more in regards to the whole guilt conversation. It is an incredibly cheap tactic yet shows how desperate they are as they rapidly approach their recycling and ultimately, their redoing of the first density.

"We barely have time to react in this world, let alone rehearse..."
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A very important point to note though most in the thread most likely understand this. No matter what, all of this "pain and suffering" is an illusion. We are playing our roles though an average human has not rehearsed yet. More on this later...

These power plays have been going on for millenia, long before you or I ever existed.
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True. Though they had stacked the deck, didn't we restack it by coming here along with all the others? Fair is fair.

Perhaps it will be that some of us, as individuals/souls, will be capable of avoiding slipping into the game-plan rabbit hole, if we do experience that ultimate loss and humanity becomes but a ghost of a blip on the radar of existence. Perhaps some of us will indeed walk offstage as conscientious objectors, but if I'm one of those individuals/souls it will not be done with glee. It will be the most bitterness of sweetness to bear.
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Zero Point has already played out. We are our future selves. Coming to a personal close with what is going to happen is important. You do not have to walk off with glee, but you can hold you head high knowing that you accomplished your mission. You already have :)

Yet, what I can do is plant a seed, a light bulb poised for a spark of awareness to enlighten...if you Will.
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Always good to see someone doing this. This is what we can't get enough of in closing this cycle.

I really have a problem with the word "harvest" when discussing human beings...
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I hear you though I know from messages I have received that both negatives and positives use the term harvest in terms of humans being food. Negatives for humanity being their sustenance and positives who see humans as the ripe fruit to bring along with them in journey.

Think about it this way, none of the souls on the planet are human of nature. All of them have come from other areas of the Cosmos. The human vehicle is just a genetic technologically made machine.

Of course this is all purely semantical but just something to think about....

There's so many ways all this can and should be discussed, but my concentration, my area, is with regard to emotions. I am a healer, not a fighter. I stopped being a sword-out Spiritual Warrior years ago. It's a cycle I have chosen not to perpetuate.

Even so, if I have to I will rise to the call. For now, though, I choose to work through words and thoughtfullness with regard to what people are doing with their emotions...and me, too, what I do with mine.

Perhaps others will have more to offer in way of explanation, in ways I'm not well versed.
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Interesting you say this. Of course, we all have very different paths on our missions, none being imperfect, but I have noticed of late that I have had a more opposite path. When I first awakened, I chose the path of the scribe over the warrior. I'm not really sure why it's changed lately but the loud and bright warrior has really come out lately.

In meditation, I have always been rather peaceful when making my discoveries. As of late I have been inclined to make my energy felt where the spiritual war is currently happening. I have had an overabundance of ammo (light) and have seen amazing things. Even if one chooses not to use it in this manner, it is important now as a self-aware light source, to hold the light within yourself. The planet needs it so much.

And not to forget, once again, in their limited consciences they only serve themselves...and this is an inherent problem within the ideal that All is One. At the heart of the matter, their actions are not servicing from a place of service to all. Period. The buck stops there.

I think that the All is One ideal is a paradox. It's a nice thought, but I am highly suspicious of it being just a convenient thought-become-a-line for a "playwriter."
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Hmmm.....a little surprised to hear you say this. Here is my take on All being One.

First off, it is paradoxical from a third density perspective. That does change once out of this matrix and certainly, if you were able to see your true sixth density nature, I wonder if you would say differently. I say that being that you only have to complete the sixth density to graduate seventh, which is the completion of the self with all other-selves. White being representative of the sixth density (encompassing all of the colors/densities below) and clearness being representative of the seventh density. If you are clear, you are One with everything.

Also, the hyperdimensional negatives indeed do only serve themselves. However, where would we be without them? Polarity would be much harder to come by. Life would be euphoric and there would be no need for ascension. Humanity would stay in the third density forever. Because of the negative influence, souls are forced to make a choice between negative and positive polarity.

My analogy between the positive and the negative is a Cosmic chessboard. The Light and the Dark go back and forth, making moves, putting each other in check and so forth. Eventually, the game ends in a stalemate as everyone makes it home...everyone wins. But if we didn't have the dark, there would be no one to play our fun little game of chess with.

The vast majority of prior octaves of Creation have been No Free Will Zones. The lessons are setup, the densities are in place the way they are, and the soul evolves in a fully scripted manner. Earth currently resides in one of the few Free Will Zones in Creation. It was a semi-radical idea of this Logos to try.

We have seen the results, we are doing something about it, yet we all still come from the same Source.

And while I'm out on this limb, I'll as well let this air, too: I also take issue with and do not support those who embrace them like they're some kind of undercover saving grace for humanity. In my mind's eye that's just more nonsense the predatory parasites would just love for us all
to believe.
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It's not that they are a saving grace but where would we be without them? And are they not still our Brothers and Sisters? It's funny that we live in this illusion and yet are held captive by those caught in an even bigger illusion. In the end, there is no light and dark so why not stay Neutral now? Actually come to think of it, you were the one that taught me about Neutrality :)

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Of course this is all simply in discussion. It's good to see everyone's participation and the spark shining in many. There is one thing I would like to add since in a manner, this thread has been about protection of thoughts.

In direct relation with being mindful of thoughts, be mindful with your overall energy. The negatives are looking for the smallest holes in one's aura to attack from. This can be through anything you ingest as well as using others to attack you. Knowledge is protection but an overall awareness will help keep one steady as the physical events increase.

Thanks again for the wonderful thread. It had a great impact on my energy signature.

Blessings-

M
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Late night bump for all the thinkers...
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By drawing this guilt into your hearts and awareness's you are "playing" into their trap. You are acting to serve their agenda...the destruction of your spirit. Given enough human spirit subdued and destructed it's then game over, and humanity loses.

Every word said in the OP's post is true, but this is the core of it. Do not willingly participate in your own spiritual destruction in any way, folks. Much depends on everyone wisening up in this regard, and fast.

The easiest way to make sure you don't draw in the negative thoughts that are so temptingly placed before you, is to actively draw in positive thoughts instead. Be vigilant. Keep your focus on what's Holy and True at all times, and your spirit is eternally safe.

Perhaps it will be that some of us, as individuals/souls, will be capable of avoiding slipping into the game-plan rabbit hole, if we do experience that ultimate loss and humanity becomes but a ghost of a blip on the radar of existence. Perhaps some of us will indeed walk offstage as conscientious objectors, but if I'm one of those individuals/souls it will not be done with glee. It will be the most bitterness of sweetness to bear.

And this is precisely what the more enlightened among us feel about the situation. No-one wants to "win" the game individually, only to have to stand aside and watch the rest lose! We Love every one of you, dammit!
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Well said, "söta bror" hf
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Guilt is only a problem if we fail to see it's purpose.

There may only be a few people directly responsible for the situation in the gulf, but we all drive cars don't we.
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Lol, I sat and stared at my computer screen for awhile this morning watching the vertical prompt line blink on and off wondering just how to start this post. chuckle Obnoxious little thing, that blinking line. There's only one way to start this post and that's to begin with with where I'll end--

I had a fabulous breakthrough last night about "All is One"... yippee-yay cheer , go me!

To my new Aussie friend, I say thank you. I only got to read this comment of yours early yesterday evening without being able to respond, and that ended up being the very best thing for me because I was required to be deeply thoughtful about my "hard line with no wiggle-worm for compromise" stance. It was the bolded of your words that made my heart center momentarily come to a screeching halt--

And while I'm out on this limb, I'll as well let this air, too: I also take issue with and do not support those who embrace them like they're some kind of undercover saving grace for humanity. In my mind's eye that's just more nonsense the predatory parasites would just love for us all
to believe.

I hope you don't mean me, but I can see how you might have, given the not-so-well-thought-out hastily posts I've made so far. (woops, sorry. I just get excited about all this kinda stuff that's all)

I really hope you don't misunderstand me, I agree wholeheartedly with what you wrote in your first post. My intention was simply to get a dialogue going. So we can all go in a bit deeper and explore some more ins and outs with one another. Learn some more about the important things in life.
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--no, it was not directed at you.

I understand now that my "aired" statement absolutely appears to alienate others - henceforth requiting your "I hope..." feeling/comment - but more pointedly it serves to alienate myself from...heh, good grief, just about everyone. I am required to concede and note that I have yet to communicate with one single person that shares in my thought that All is One may just be a convenient ploy of the game masters and may very well not, as an ideal, be ground in truth. I am also required to concede and note that my stance has been laced through and through with what is distinctly an unsightly stubbornness.

My Aussie friend, you must have been really feeling a sense of hope because it was so strong that it sprang eternal within myself and drew me to follow through with all of the following processing. Very grateful to you, I AM.

First thing, before I get to explaining what and how I processed last night, I have to tell y'all about something I saw last night. I'm still shaking my head at the irony and the lack of this being just coincidence, given the timing of this thread and my comments herein.

I layed down in my bed to be meditatively thoughtful about my reaction to my/our Aussie friend. As I often do just prior to entering my quiet place I gazed out my bedroom window at the trees, this for me being calming and grounding. Except this time when I gazed out I saw something that may be hard to believe, but as sure as shit is stinky there it was. On the only branching limb to see (given the rest is all leaves) was the sun shining through the leaves "creating" a perfect picture of a Gray alien's head just like this one, but without the blinking eyes ( gaah more blinking, lol)--

alien03

--I kid you, not. It may be kwazy kwap, that head appearing there like that, but it's none the less true.

I just smiled, then softly chuckled. I chuckled because it's somehow not yet been figured out by the negs that I don't react to their "schoolyard bullying" with fear. I then closed my eyes to meditate, and then moments later I just had to roll over on my side laughing at the absurdity of what I had seen. Some of the tactics used to illicit base emotions from me and humans at large just anymore never fails to amuse me...well, that is as long as no one is getting hurt.

I have to admit, though, as far as tactics and manipulation go, this was quite the clever ploy...the head appearing on what I embrace as a grounder before settling into meditation. As you'll see, wink it didn't work.

Given the recognition of my stubbornness I had to be thoughtful about how I arrived to that place of stubbornness for the sake of my own future well-being. It's not as if I got there/here without reason, and the points I make were very large turning points in my life wherein I was required to rethink...everything.

1) Growing up my father was a well-heeled, to the core, bred Southern Baptist. A Christian through and through. He joined the service as soon as he was old enough (the later 1950's), not long after he met my mother and married her, and then not long after that was sent on a tour of duty as a Seabee stationed at Antarctica.

That's the background for the following--

One day four or five years ago my mother and I were discussing my father and how messed up in the head he was (they had long since been divorced). She being the one who knew-him-when was the person I asked how and why he got the way he had...cold, aloof, and sometimes just plain ole mean spirited. My father "disowned" me in the mid-90's, and despite my efforts to amend that, he's never spoken to me again. He's also since disowned my only other sibling, my brother.

She knew exactly when the change in him happened. He left as a military Seabee to Antarctica - this fine Christian boy - and returned home, quite literally, a broken man. He was not a drinker of alcohol before he left, but began drinking when he got home.

My mom told me that one time when he had been drinking, and she had been talking about going to church that Sunday, he blew up and yelled at her saying that this, this life as we know it, was nothing more than an experiment and that in all truthfulness there was no such thing as God.

Naturally, she was stunned because the man before her was not the man she married. She tried to find out why he was saying such a thing, but my father then clammed up saying that he couldn't say anymore and that he shouldn't have said anything in the first place. She tried to discuss it with him again when he was sober, but he just repeatedly told her to forget about it and that it was something he wasn't allowed to speak of... hmm imagine that, a big military secret, eh?

Given all the information/scuttlebutt in the conspiracy arena about Antarctica and what's been going on underneath all that ice, you might be able to see why this in part had a large impact on my rethinking about "God" and "All is One."

Whatever it was that my father was exposed to down there I most likely will now never know from his first hand experience given he won't even speak to me, much less that he's bound to some military oath of secrecy.

Whatever it was, though, it RUINED him. As far as reasons go, this one has an undeniable, close-to-home-hitting, impact that I cannot objectively discount.


2) In Jan. of 2004 I was meditating, just being quiet within myself, and without any particular meditative agenda in mind. Suddenly, I was spontaneously OBEd into the space just above the Earth's atmosphere. Off in the distance of space I viewed a very large, burning mass/object screamin' Earth's way. The only way to describe it would be that it was a very large asteroid.

I then "heard" from the voice - this I know as my 6D soul group's collective-soul-complex voice of guidance - 'You are fence-sitting about your beliefs. It's time to figure out just what it is you do and don't believe in, stop meandering around, and get off of fences. This is of much importance.' I was then back in my body and not taking the experience lightly.

Hearing from my 6D soul-complex is something that rarely happens, and only happens when it's of the utmost importance...my free will and my ability to learn under my own steam without being spoon fed is the reason for the rarity of the communication. And rightfully so. A living-lesson learned without the experience to back it up is no lesson learned, at all.

( chuckle I wonder where Ms. ArunaLuna is, if she's on board. That last line is a Fortune Cookie proverb if ever I saw one. This comment probably doesn't make sense to hardly any other but her, but if she visits this thread she'll know. Anyhoo, rolleyes to get back on track...)

I launched into really discovering what it was I did and didn't believe in. My thought was that if I wasn't up there on fences my head wouldn't get lopped off by that asteroid because I would be out of its range, being on the ground.

About a half-month later, there I was sitting and very earnestly trying to figure out something in particular about a belief I can't even remember now what it was. I had a physics book, an astrology book, and some channeled information, all spread out before me, myself going back and forth between the three trying to piece some things together, and doing so not with ease or to any kind of fruition. I was getting frustrated and agitated with myself.

I then again spontaneously OBEd, although it wasn't into outer spaces, it was into my inner space. I once again heard my 6D soul-complex speak to me, only this time it was much more urgent and went along the lines of, 'Listen up, NOW, because you're still meandering. If it's a belief system created within/from/of/about the 3D realm then it's a part of the infrastructure/grid that binds It is a false belief system designed to befuddle you, and it must be rejected. Given this, because we (the soul-complex) fits into that category, and we request that we also are rejected. Just remember that we love you and that even in our coming silence we are behind you, supporting you, as always.'

Gosh, right in this moment it's like I'm back in that moment when I came back to my physical body...I have tears in my eyes. It was so hard to take, then, and remembering how I felt then is how I feel now. I now understand that what they said and did wasn't without good cause, but it was nonetheless difficult.

I walked around for days basically going through the five stages of grief...the first being denial, and the hardest one to pass through. Boy-howdy, how I wanted to reject the message...like you cannot believe. But to deny the message had any validity was to deny my own 6D soul-complex. And I knew and know that "voice." It has an unique intonation and energy, and is unmistakable. Any other voice/guidance that comes without its particular intonation and energy signature is most obviously not them. Their guidance-voice is just that unique.

I then got good and angry, and did a whole lot of cussing and stomping of my feet...chuckle . And I bargained, not for long, but I did try. I didn't really get too depressed because I wouldn't allow myself to go down that road. And I finally arrived to a place of acceptance, and did as I was directed. I put the books and channelled material away, and went by the seat of my pants towards meteing out just what it was that was of value as far as beliefs go.

It took over two and a half years before I heard from them again...and yeah-buddy, I had done a LOT of work on letting go of belief systems...the belief systems that are part and parcel of the grid-work infrastructure that created/s this "makeshift" reality; organized religion, politics, capitalism, etc., and I never once reduced myself to lumping the universal qualities of love, compassion, tolerance, etc., in with the false belief systems.

It has since been a long road I've traveled, arriving to my present destination of questioning everything, absolutely. The above are the two most profound reasons why I am, or was hard edged and unwillingly to compromise, but there's also more little bits of this and that, and one or the other experiences that have been involved, too. I did not arrive to this place without good reason, but I can see how I've become set in my ways and my stubbornness is not in my best interest.

And while I recognize that I took the above reasons too far into some unhealthy interpersonal territory, I still think they bear merit and mention, and are open for discussion.

verysad Last night, however, to know and feel how some of my ideations might have inspired in my Aussie friend a kind of feeling of rejection was rough for me. I very well saw that I needed a change of perspective. He's/you've been nothing short of generous with his/your time and enthusiasm, and he doesn't deserve to be shut down by my stubbornness. Even if it wasn't my intention, and if he was any less the great spirit he is (lol, you're a guy, right?), it so could have been a result. And it would've been nobody else but myself who would be forcing an issue and creating alienation. I count myself fortunate for not having done the damage I could have.

ohyeah My change in perspective - after objectively and subjectively reviewing the above two profound-for-me reasons - came in the most beautiful and personally inspiring way. It goes back to this that I wrote in my opening post--

You see, as a 6D Wanderer I know, beyond any shadow of doubt that can be cast over humanity, that as originally created we are a beautiful and dynamic species, capable of unbounded and honorable beingness. I know this because I have been this; I do have some bare memories of living as a human with all human-body DNA intact and fully functional.
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--at the end of my reviewing I was drawn back into that brief experience of being a human with all my DNA intact and fully functional, and I want to share as best as I can how it feels and what it's like.

My human body, then, was very tall and had a physical sturdiness I can't quite put into words. I want to say, "bullet proof," but I can't because something happened in between that body and this one - DNA manipulation/corruption - that speaks otherwise.

I don't know the absolute true face of what it was that happened and how it happened, but here I sit basically DNA hobbled, so it's obvious something destructive happened. I'm now "messaged" and requested to let go of it because to remember would be far too harsh a memory, and I know enough to suffice the point being made without taking it any further.

So, really tall and very physically sturdy. Important, I think, to note, yet this information does not arrive to the heart of what it's like to be fully DNA stranded and walking the face of the planet.

To feel myself as an unadulterated human being was to feel joy, a joy that simply does not exist in such this here and now form of mine because of the dualistic nature of our reality. This doesn't mean I haven't felt joy here, I most certainly have, yet this quality of joy I'm trying to share about is...just different. It is bred from a quality of innocence not found or little found here in this makeshift reality.

Lol, there's no two ways about it, duality sucks. Plenty of lessons can be learned from dualism, yes, but more often than not it, lol, just blows chunks. In other words, it's not easy to learn when the cards are stacked against us.

It was being able to be in that state of innocence again, no matter how much a whisper of an experience and brief, that I found therein what "All is One" means...at least for me, at least to a greater extent than ever before, and at least for now.

You see, while being in that mind, body, and spiritual pristine state I was truly of this world, and not just in this world.

How many times have how many of us stated over and over again that we're not of this world, we're just in it. I think we say this because the mess we see around us is just all so hard to identify with and rectify ourselves with. We don't want to be a part of it, the mess.

I hope I've not offended anyone by saying "we"...I'm just pretty darn sure that I'm not the only one who has at the very least at one point or the other felt this way.

In that pristine state I was (and likely at some level still am) an intrinsic part of this world-unadulterated, its nature and beingness was my nature and beingness...oh, sigh , words are failing me now. This is so blitheringly hard for me to explain with the efficacy it requites.

At any rate, this was how and where I had my much needed breakthrough, and can and now do more readily embrace that "All is One" IS, and is not just a convenient ploy of negs nor is some lackadaisical faux New Age rhetoric. I'm still leery of how the ideal of "All is One" can be used, but my hard edges haven't softened to a great degree.

hf It feels good to feel soft like this, for the reason that I am.

Gandhi said,

"You must be the change you wish to see in the world."

Because of you - lol, throughout the leap-froggin' and mirroring (despite the mirrors being on opposite sides of the planet) - I have become some of the change I have wished to see in the world, and I'm no longer alienating myself from my peers and loved ones who've tried to have me understand that "All is One" is a universal truth...oh, brother, I think back about some of the looks I've gotten from others while I've tried to be right about something I was really rather wrong about.

I have made a leap of faith that I don't have to rely solely on faith to believe. My experience in that pristine human form has spoken volumes beyond what words can describe.

I hope you, my Aussie friend, see this post. You were a blessing in disguise, and I do love-love you.

And as for you, my Fifth Density Wanderer loved one, I'm sure you know by now that I called you last night to tell you all about all of the above. I trust that if you've by now read this you'll see my progress and be pleased for me.

As always, I love-love you, too.
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Thank you, OP.

I am an old Indigo Soul, sometimes referred to as an Indigo Warrior.

I've read a little on what a "wanderer" is, and considered that maybe I am one. It doesn't "resonate" within me, though I certainly appreciate and understand that resonance.


I appreciate your outlook; Love, in balance and understanding.

If *we* only had more awakened wanderers, there'd have been little to no need for Indigo Warriors. But, alas, what has been...has been...and what is...Is.

I look forward to the coming changes, and quite possibly a much needed rest.
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Thank you, OP.

I am an old Indigo Soul, sometimes referred to as an Indigo Warrior.

I've read a little on what a "wanderer" is, and considered that maybe I am one. It doesn't "resonate" within me, though I certainly appreciate and understand that resonance.


I appreciate your outlook; Love, in balance and understanding.

If *we* only had more awakened wanderers, there'd have been little to no need for Indigo Warriors. But, alas, what has been...has been...and what is...Is.

I look forward to the coming changes, and quite possibly a much needed rest.
Nevyn
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This. Yes. A rest. lolsign

Something I've really longed for is simplicity in all things. No more 'ya gotta do this to get that' business.

That was one of the feelings of experiencing a pristine human form I didn't think to mention, I was so struggling for descriptive words...it was just a simple way of living and being. It's no wonder simplicity is something I have deep down longed for, because deep down I know what it's like.

One doesn't have to be a Wanderer to be a conduit of change. As I mentioned in my opening post, it's not just Wanderers who are here for altruistic reasons, it's others like yourself, too. You are very welcomed here on this thread.

I'll tell you something, Nevyn, I fully feel your old soul presence. I most rarely ever say this to anyone because I think it has been overused, run into the ground, and has kind of lost it's meaning...but with you, for what I feel of your soul, I will--

Namaste...I fully bow to the divinity so evident within you.


May peace become us, Warrior, so we all can rest.
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I enjoyed reading of your experience. Thanks for sharing it.
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Thank you.

I'm not so sure, anymore, that it is divinity that's within me. Every time you touch the dark, it leaves it's mark within you. This old Indigo Warrior has touched a lot of dark.

So be it.

Just when I was hoping for a brief respite, I find myself here, in the midst of the change; where the real work has just begun.

I'd say Namaste here, as is the customary response, but instead I'll say...

Sweet Dreams

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"I have to return to this. To say "they're doing it to show us what we're not" implies, at least in my conscience, that they're doing us a service. The only ones they want to serve are themselves."

God refers to the locust army as "His" army... as He allows it to exist just as He allows Satan to exist. the locust army is comprised of all the kenites (offspring of Cain, spawn of the Devil, faux Jewish athiests, communistic jesuits, scribes for the House of Judah) together with all their loyal followers in flesh bodies who are often referred to as satanists and/or the elite. occult loyalists who carry the mark of the beaST.

he has "allowed" them to exist, allowed them free reign, up to a point, just as He has done for all souls born into flesh except for His Election.

Petty tyrants are benefactors of the highest order, who in many ways serve each individuals higher spirit not only in spite of but due to the abject baselessness of their own.(spirits/purpose)

Lucifer is "released" intermittently at Gods design... hence and thusly he also serves the singular purpose of almighty God.

Providing us the fullness of hard won perspection... which by hook and crook along the way we receive.

You don't think for one minute that all this hell and highwater is just random chaos do you? That simply would never do/due. Father is impeccable. That means no idyl/idol energies.

By the way, He will destroy the locust army during Armageddon and Meggidio simultaneously and singlehandedly, as it is written.

180 pound hailstones deliver the blow.
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You don't think for one minute that all this hell and highwater is just random chaos do you?
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Of course not. I think I made that pretty clear in my opening post.

Be well, flower as will I.
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Hi OP.

I enjoyed reading your post and for the record, no I'm not a guy chuckle But you're not the first person to feel some kind of male quality about me. I don't know what it is... lol I'm walking around in a female body but inwards I kinda don't identify with either gender if that makes sense, I just feel, well like "me" I guess.

I loved what you wrote because, get ready for it, I saw some very similar life experience conditions to my own.

My father was also a big drinker, VERY STUBBORN, and he also disowned both me and my brother. He also, wasn't always like this. He was a very different man before he was offered a job as manager of a rather large retail complex in our area. After taking this job everything about him changed.

Weird huh. "Coincidences" are a funny little thing aren't they. wink hmm what does this mean I wonder?

I hadn't seen my father in many years until last year when I was told that he had been taken to hospital and wasn't expected to come out. He was in the advanced stages of liver, bowel and prostate cancer.

I had spent most of my life hating this man. Hating him because I loved him so much and did not understand what I had done to make him turn his back on me.

So, shaking with fear I went to the hospital, every day, and sat with him. It turned out to be one of the most profoundly loving experiences of my life. He wasn't able to talk much but he held my hand the whole time, and each time he opened his eyes and saw me the only words that came out of his mouth over and over again were "I love you".

It seemed to be his way of saying sorry for all these past years of wasted time in stubborn mode. On the Friday he woke up and told me "I'm going home today". I asked him who was coming to get him and he replied "My mum." She has been gone now for about 20 years. I knew it then, time was almost up. I wasn't ready for it. I went downstairs to call my sister to tell her she should come in to say goodbye, but she didn't know where I was coming from. She said to me that it was just his dementia talking and I shouldn't be worried. The hospital staff had been saying he may only have a few weeks left, and this was only the end of the first week. But I knew different and felt really sad that she couldn't understand that no, this was it, it was time, and she wasn't going to be able to say goodbye.

I went back upstairs and he again opened his eyes and said to me "I'm not going home today." I said Oh aren't you? Why's that? Then he told me, "I'm going tomorrow now".

On that next day I walked into his room and I just knew this was it, he was breathing "the death rattle", as they call it.

My sister had been in earlier that morning, and my brother was already there. I had only just sat down next to him, while my husband and brother got up to go make coffee when he opened his eyes and looked directly into mine. The rattling stopped, his breathing softened, he looked like he wanted to say something but there was no way he could, too far gone. So I just looked him straight in the eye and said, I love you dad, I always have, and I always will, and don't you ever forget it. With that he closed his eyes and took 2 or 3 more breaths and stopped. By the time my brother and hubby came back with the coffee, he was gone.

Why am I telling you all this?

I've heard the voice in my head as well. Though I don't know who or what they are, but I've heard them speak to me before. In the days after my dad's death they spoke to me again. This was my first real lesson to open my eyes to what this "world of mirrors" really is.

I was quite surprised by how clear and directly I could hear them speaking to me. They showed me why my relationship with my father was the way it was. You see, he disowned me and my brother because we could not be who he wanted us to be. He wanted us to be fine upstanding citizens and "follow the program". You know, study hard, get a job as a doctor or a lawyer, get married, settle down, buy a house, have children, save for retirement, all that sort of stuff. But that wasn't/isn't me. All my life I've never seen the purpose of it, the meaning to it. I knew there was more to life than that and I've dedicated my entire life to trying to figure out what it might be.

I just couldn't be what he wanted me to be, and never understood why he couldn't just accept me and love me as I am. Why he couldn't show me that no matter what, I was his daughter, and no matter what I did he would always love me and be proud of me. I felt like I needed that tenderness, and never got it from him. That made me angry, and so very very sad. So while he disowned me, I also disowned him for the very same reason.

That "voice" showed me myself through him. The mirror.
They showed me, that what I wanted, was all the things that he could not give, because that was not HIM. Just as all the things that he wanted from me, was not ME. I couldn't do or be the things he wanted because they held no meaning for me. They were not important. I was born in the 70's and grew up seeing a whole heap of bullshit around me. Meaningless crap to me. Wars, consumerism, materialism. I didn't see the point of any of it. At all.

Well for my dad, who grew up in another generation, he was a child of the depression years, all these things like having a good job and saving money and owning your own home, they were what was most important to him because he grew up in a time where those things meant the difference between feeding your family or starving. Those experiences shaped who he was and there was very little chance of he and I ever seeing the life the same way.

So, we in effect were both angry with eachother for exactly the same reason. We reacted to eachother the way we did because we had within each of us exactly the same characteristics. Now sure, you can look at it as being that way because we are related, and children grow up carrying within them personality traits they learn from their parents. But it's more than that.

It's from that first really open lesson of the big mirror that I can see many more examples of it through other people I am not biologically related to. It's allowed me to see a bit more clearly that, non-physically, we are all related to eachother, we are all part of eachother. Those things we see in others, that are exactly the same as us in whatever individual way they are expressed, ARE that way because those people ARE also us. You are me, and I am you.

I understand now what it means to say; "To love others, is to love yourself."

I can see a little bit how the All is One thing is being expressed in this 3D reality. We're all made up biologically of the same stuff. As above so below. Everything about us, including that which is not physical, comes from the same place. So every person in your life, shows you something about who you are choosing to be, even the people you don't like. Why don't you like them? What traits do they show outwardly that if you really think about it honestly, you can see that you have them within you as well. No matter how hard we may try to hide them or deny them. chuckle

I'm not talking about an individuals actions, I'm talking about the character traits, the states of mind that all actions ultimately come from. Actions are just a physical expression of a state of mind. You can see it everywhere. Take I dunno, the concept of government for example. Really look at it. What is it as a state of mind? The desire to control others? Do we each not have that same desire within each of us to some extent? Do we want to have control over our lives by means of controlling what other people do in it? Do we want others to see things the way we do? Believe as we do? What if, when we decide to give up those desires, what will happen to government? Or other control based institutions for that matter. Will they fall away as the desire to control has fallen away? Will they simply cease to exist? Or will they transform into something else? I wonder.



I remember an experience I had while meditating many years ago. I don't know how but I was taken to a place that is absolutely indescribable with words. Absolutely indescribable. All I felt was love, pure love, joy and absolute unshakable acceptance. I understood what the words unconditional love meant. In a very real tangible form. And while in that place I felt there were many, many individuals, countless numbers of "individuals", I also felt them as One Being. All connected. All family. And there was no sadness, no pain, no harm, no death, no duality, no good or bad, just love and acceptance. And I also knew that it was very real. "They" knew absolutely everything about me. Everything I had ever done, felt, said, thought, EVERYTHING. For a small moment I felt shame for the things that I had done which I felt were wrong, because I was totally exposed, they knew everything. All my "secrets" had been caught out.

But that moment passed the instant "They" showed me that it didn't matter to them, they loved and accepted me just as I am, warts and all. It was beautiful. No words can describe it. Nothing I can say can make anyone fully understand it. I knew after that that what we think we are is not real. We are something much much more than we think. Everything that happens to us is a learning experience.

I don't know what this place is,(3d reality) or why we're really here. Maybe it's a training ground, a kindergarten, a school, I don't know. But I do know that whatever it is, it doesn't last forever, and nothing here is really as it seems. It is and it isn't really REAL.

We have to look beyond what our eyes are showing us.

All the negativity being poured into this place is not what we are. But I suspect perhaps it is there for a very good reason. Perhaps it's to amplify things in order to prompt us to see through it to the real heart of things. We cannot get caught up in feeling guilt or shame or anger, and allow ourselves to react with more of it. We have to see the lessons in it. What is it trying to show us about our own choices?

There are circles within circles. I'm beginning to suspect this circle (cycle) we are in here, is to teach us something about personal responsibility, action and reaction, and to show us the consequences of choice, and its effect on the whole. To teach us that there is great responsibility that comes with being gifted with free will. What happens when we learn this lesson? Move on to the next teaching ground? I dunno.

They're just my thoughts, and since I don't know anything, they could be completely wrong. But I find it the most fascinating thing trying to work it all out.
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I enjoyed reading your post and for the record, no I'm not a guy chuckle But you're not the first person to feel some kind of male quality about me. I don't know what it is... lol I'm walking around in a female body but inwards I kinda don't identify with either gender if that makes sense, I just feel, well like "me" I guess.
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gaah chuckle

Dude looks like a lady? 1rof1

(I'm in such a hilarious mood today)

With my mirth set aside: Oh yeah, I know how you feel. As you might have seen on page one another poster thought I was a soul brother. That's not the first time that's happened for me, either.

wink Funny how strength of conviction is often perceived as a male quality, eh?


I loved what you wrote because, get ready for it, I saw some very similar life experience conditions to my own.
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Wow, my goodness. Without going point by point through your post, your experiences are indeed much alike mine. Funny, that, although not wholly surprising. I've found over the years that my soul-kin have more in common, than not...

...I don't know about you, but to find out about and share in the similarities with soul-kin has always been comforting for this restless spirit of mine, when I get to driving myself hard to meet the goal of being a System Buster.

Between you and my 5D Wanderer friend I've this morning been rather thoughtful of my driven nature...lol - cue Jeapordy *ding-dang, ding-dong* music - and apparently I'm not yet finished thinking about it, but when I do get finished I'll surely have a post to write; I will one way or the other have to have a post to write.

hf It's so nice, it's heart-touching, to see your user name as "Friend."

Oh, brother (snicker-snort, pun intended), you have been and are still being such a conduit for change within my little-woman-on-the-planet person. I know this is happening from above, at a soul-kin level, and is manifesting in this below. I know this because I have "seen" it through my one-eye.

I can see your soul to mine much like this --> secrets

We share in that fascination of trying to work things out.

I'm now relatively reminded of this "good ole times" song, so I'll post it for you to have a listen.




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A living-lesson learned without the experience to back it up is no lesson learned, at all.



As I stumble through this life,
help me to create more laughter than tears.
Never let me become so indifferent,
that I will fail to see the wonder in the eyes of a
child.
Never let me forget that my total effort is to cheer
people, make them forget, at least momentarily,
the unpleasantness in their lives.
and in my final moment, may I hear You whisper:
"When you made My people smile, you made Me
smile."

~Author Unknown~


Somehow I knew...you were coming...

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Finally...a soul sister... hf
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A living-lesson learned without the experience to back it up is no lesson learned, at all.



As I stumble through this life,
help me to create more laughter than tears.
Never let me become so indifferent,
that I will fail to see the wonder in the eyes of a
child.
Never let me forget that my total effort is to cheer
people, make them forget, at least momentarily,
the unpleasantness in their lives.
and in my final moment, may I hear You whisper:
"When you made My people smile, you made Me
smile."

~Author Unknown~


Somehow I knew...you were coming...

grinning

Finally...a soul sister... hf
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Oh, lawdy, Ms. ArunaLuna, this filled up my heart with so much tenderness that it's spilling over through my eyes.

This is the cry of loveliness.


Although Heart songs don't usually embed I'm going to post this anyway, with a link so you can listen... hf and know.

See the rose? Your post here has created one of those sweet "stop and smell the roses" moments I mentioned on your thread. Thank you for that.


From my heart to yours, sweet sister--




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Well, glory be and hot damn, it embedded.

yoda...the force must be with me today.


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"The force is strong with this one"

Can't wait to see the video...I'll check it later from home.

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You are a true lady...

hf



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You are a true lady...

hf



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I quite seriosly take this song you posted for me as a "green light" to go ahead with this--


...this morning [I've] been rather thoughtful of my driven nature...and apparently I'm not yet finished thinking about it, but when I do get finished I'll surely have a post to write; I will one way or the other have to have a post to write.
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It has inspired me to get off the fence I've been sitting on today, trying to ignore it, what I've been thinking about.

It was fun to have a break today and just goof around, and be all emotional, too - I needed it - but tomorrow it's back to the System Busting business at hand.

Good night, sweet sister hf
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I quite seriosly take this song you posted for me as a "green light" to go ahead with this--

...this morning [I've] been rather thoughtful of my driven nature...and apparently I'm not yet finished thinking about it, but when I do get finished I'll surely have a post to write; I will one way or the other have to have a post to write.

It has inspired me to get off the fence I've been sitting on today, trying to ignore it, what I've been thinking about.

It was fun to have a break today and just goof around, and be all emotional, too - I needed it - but tomorrow it's back to the System Busting business at hand.

Good night, sweet sister hf
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Good night!

hf
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This thread is mind blowing.

You can always tell good material when you need to step away every ten minutes for ten minutes to allow what you just read to sink in.

Many seem to naturally perceive the concept of genetic machines and past projections of future selves.

Many have been preyed on for a very long time, maybe different scenarios but you know what I'm talking about Willis.

I too have walked for short periods of time in this state of joy that you both speak of that is impossible to put in words and far above any interpretation and imagination we can put to it.
One AC here once described his initial wakening point to be identical to my own,
Vibrating bodies are also not uncommon.
This happened, it may be hard for most to accept but are we not in a life that seems almost dreamlike and in dreams are not all thing possible?

To say something is impossible just seems to be in an ignorant state of being, which isn't a bad thing as it is a catalysis to pastures new.

Only once did I have the honor of being spoken to by a higher voice.

Of course, I enjoyed the experiences but very quickly returned to my former, lower state, writing these events off as experiences given me to draw from and nothing more.

I now realise they were far more than that.

They are very precious gifts that I foolishly misinterpreted as higher powers either toying with me or giving me a short insight in what it could be like.

I never realized it may well have been a showing of a state worthy to strive for that can be obtained in the here and now.

There is beauty all around, you just have to lift the veil to see it

As for our Australian friends post about her father, now if that don't tug at your heart string and bring a tear to your eye....and the train of thought that all is a state of mind and of cyclical nature echo my own reasoning.
Outstanding.

I have put all these experiences behind me by diving into a pool of whiskey and humor, hiding behind a mask of having a laugh and being a controversial asshat every chance I get.
Perhaps it is time to get out of the pool, dry off and up and decide what it is I really believe in.



Thank you Op and all who contributed here, wise words indeed and strangely enough the direction my mind was taking previous to this time.

I think you all have in some way, "saved" me today.
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And I would just like to add:
I agree.
One thing I do believe is that some entity out there knows everything about you, your thoughts, your every desire and the more nobler ones are more than likely going to be fulfilled if you stick at it.


Others will try to whisper that it is too hard, you are too weak, you will fail, the obstacles are too high but if you think about it they are not really, the only "appear" to be.

They are easier and quickly put behind you than you first "thought".
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thanks for posting and sharing :)

i Feel u have so much to offer, so much i can learn from, perspective is an amazing thing. even tho we may have incredibly different takes on what Is, we seem to be on different paths to the same End

i wanted to offer my take on a couple points

the main one u started off with was responsibility. so when we look around and see some 'shitty' things being done, where is the....what is, who is responsible ??

ONE answer is YOU. YOU, whoever is reading these words, everything u see, interact with, experience is ultimately YOUR CREATION. your choices, reflections, growth etc etc all is reflection

so if you are responsible, you are response-able, meaning YOU HAVE THE POWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaa to do whatever you want, create however you feel, and this is what i think we are coming to terms with as a race/planet/etc

change yourSelf = change reality....just be aware that there is a physical manifestation lag, or has been, but, as with everything, CHANGE IS...

THE REFLECTION IS ABSOLUTELY RESPONSIVE TO YOUR CHOICES !!!

so what about 'others' and their choices...

dont they create ??

well of course !!!!

all create in direct response to your choices !!!! reeeeeeeeefleeeeeeeeectionnnnnn

YES, of course there are those who make decisions we may feel that are not in alignment with what we choose...there is the rollercoatery type feel to life here that is a very real thing...

however the key seems to be FIRST CHOICE, THOUGHT. you set this all in motion BRILLIANTLY loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo​oooooooooooooooooooong loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong ago... and at the same time have the power within to change it moment by moment

so, in a sense, we just playin a game (its not any fun to be, know everything ever ever, booooooooooring, lets see what its like to feel not unified, which is who we seem to really be...UNITY)

this shit is so crazy awesome, words, words, words, bro

thanks for being, hope 2 see u round town :))))
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Excellent writing OP. I feel so much of this too. This thread has brought me to tears knowing that others understand the importance of UNCONDITIONAL love.
That we are all connected is the key. Thanks for your eloquent words and source of emotion.
Just beautiful day now.
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There is beauty all around, you just have to lift the veil to see it
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Yep!

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Let's see:
We shouldn't feel partialy responsible for what is going on in the world, right?.
Let's take for instance, the tragedy with the oil 'spill'.

We KNOW what oil industry does to nature. The corruption, the damage, etc.

We shake our heads in disgust...we sigh and we get on our cars and go to the gas station to fill the tank, because we 'have to go to work' to that corporation which possibly is damaging the environment by polluting it or selling pharmaceutical products which cause more damage than benefit.

We shake our head again in disgust and we sigh. We have to feed our family after all, don't we?.

We are co-dependants of a very sick relationship and very, very few individuals do not take part of it.

I respectfully disagree with your 6-D spiritual wisdom.
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Youse guyses, y'all are just so touching with your willingness to join me in this thread. It's good to see the participation and the sharing of your perspectives and perceptions, and the ups and downs and ins and outs of your lives.

As my "spirit guide" Master Teacher said to me, this the last bit of unconditional love wisdom (his "area" of expertise) he shared with me before we integrated--

Remember to share. It's what humans don't share that keeps them divisible.

Which each new post, what we're discussing on this thread takes us that much closer to indivisibility.

hf Awesome, eh?

woohoo ...go team Humanity!

I have been diligently working on a substantial post this morning, but at this point I need to set it aside to finish up later. Quality is far more important to me than is quickness.

Because my computer is down - my son shares his computer with me - I don't have as much access to this computer over the weekends, so I might be scarce of presence in this thread until Monday morning.

I don't tell you this because I think anyone is waiting with bated breath to see more material...lol, my ego is not quite that ignoble (a comment Ms. ArunaLuna will get, and the reason why I laugh). I'm actually rather surprised the thread has generated the extent of interest it has, and it's not faded away. I share this with you so it's not thought that I've abandoned the thread.

With that in mind, if I get an opportunity to check in I, of course, will. I LOVE reading your posts. I learn so much from them. Please do keep sharing your own perspectives and notions. This thread would be "naught" without you.

Until later... smile_kiss woohoo
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Let's see:
We shouldn't feel partialy responsible for what is going on in the world, right?.
Let's take for instance, the tragedy with the oil 'spill'.

We KNOW what oil industry does to nature. The corruption, the damage, etc.

We shake our heads in disgust...we sigh and we get on our cars and go to the gas station to fill the tank, because we 'have to go to work' to that corporation which possibly is damaging the environment by polluting it or selling pharmaceutical products which cause more damage than benefit.

We shake our head again in disgust and we sigh. We have to feed our family after all, don't we?.

We are co-dependants of a very sick relationship and very, very few individuals do not take part of it.

I respectfully disagree with your 6-D spiritual wisdom.
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Reciprocally with respect, I understand your disagreeance and the reasoning behind it...but like I said in my opening post, I personally don't falt anyone for their participation, and I think I stated why.

Even so, your's is not the first post on this thread that embodies your prudence, and it does indeed bear merit.

Thank you for posting. It's also important information for consideration.





peace





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