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Hitndahedfred
User ID: 826012 United States 04/28/2010 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel this would be a good move for Texas. Their social systems are in tatters like those of Arizona. The monetary drain from undocumented illegals is wiping out the health care, and numerous other social services programs. I SAY KICK EM ALL OUT 5 gold stars to Texas for the initiave Each time a person stands for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he or she sends forth a tiny ripple of hope. And crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance. Few are willing to embrace the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential vital quality for those who seek to change a world that yields most painfully to change. [Robert F. Kennedy] [link to www.stricklychopped.com] [link to www.ghi-engrs.com] |
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Trollicus Apocalyptus User ID: 932728 United States 04/28/2010 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But... But... MY LAWN!!!! "Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible." [link to www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 950113 United States 04/28/2010 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not gonna happen here in Tx. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 929927It would be nice, but it aint gonna happen. Texas is a Mexican majority state. I don't think they can pull it off here...... Not without a much larger fight. If they started deporting illegals, half the public schools would be gutted and they would have to let a lot of the teachers go. There are so many schools built and portable buildings put up to accommodate the influx...I'll bet many schools would be almost empty. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 929927 United States 04/28/2010 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not gonna happen here in Tx. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 950113It would be nice, but it aint gonna happen. Texas is a Mexican majority state. I don't think they can pull it off here...... Not without a much larger fight. If they started deporting illegals, half the public schools would be gutted and they would have to let a lot of the teachers go. There are so many schools built and portable buildings put up to accommodate the influx...I'll bet many schools would be almost empty. Yup, you've described the school my kids go to. I'm all for it. Send them motherfuckers packing! Still, I don't see it happening here. Way too many Mexicans in this shit hole. |
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Hitndahedfred
User ID: 826012 United States 04/28/2010 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not gonna happen here in Tx. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 950113It would be nice, but it aint gonna happen. Texas is a Mexican majority state. I don't think they can pull it off here...... Not without a much larger fight. If they started deporting illegals, half the public schools would be gutted and they would have to let a lot of the teachers go. There are so many schools built and portable buildings put up to accommodate the influx...I'll bet many schools would be almost empty. ================================================== But wouldn't the peace n quiet be nice though? Each time a person stands for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he or she sends forth a tiny ripple of hope. And crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance. Few are willing to embrace the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential vital quality for those who seek to change a world that yields most painfully to change. [Robert F. Kennedy] [link to www.stricklychopped.com] [link to www.ghi-engrs.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 119873 United States 04/28/2010 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It sounds good, but how does this protect the average citizen? Won't a spot-check be at the discretion of the officer? No more fourth amendment. Where are your papers! This legislation will be abused, and eventually it will come to a point where we citizens (for the "REATER good", mind you) will become accustomed to showing our papers at the drop of a dime and without protest...like good little maggots. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 125715 United States 04/28/2010 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It has nothing to do with racism. Once again, "Mexican" is not a race. It is a invasion across national borders, supported by the Mexican government and abetted by the U.S. government. When peaceful, law-abiding people do nothing about crime, crime wins. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 700544 United States 04/28/2010 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It sounds good, but how does this protect the average citizen? Won't a spot-check be at the discretion of the officer? No more fourth amendment. Where are your papers! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 119873This legislation will be abused, and eventually it will come to a point where we citizens (for the "REATER good", mind you) will become accustomed to showing our papers at the drop of a dime and without protest...like good little maggots. what are uyou talking about if a cop stops me now i have to show id its called licence and regestration i have no problem with that why would i have a problem proveing i am a american citizen |
theGrandSmithWizard
User ID: 955311 United States 04/28/2010 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When peaceful, law-abiding people do nothing about crime, crime wins. illegals: get legal, the legal way then I'll have respect for you... We get the powers over us that we've earned collectively. Humanity, as a whole, is self-interested, shallow, ignorant, violent and immoral; small wonder, therefore, that our leaders (secret or otherwise) reflect that. You want better leaders, become better people. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 703302 United States 04/28/2010 11:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not gonna happen here in Tx. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 950113It would be nice, but it aint gonna happen. Texas is a Mexican majority state. I don't think they can pull it off here...... Not without a much larger fight. If they started deporting illegals, half the public schools would be gutted and they would have to let a lot of the teachers go. There are so many schools built and portable buildings put up to accommodate the influx...I'll bet many schools would be almost empty. Oh come on! schools are over crowded! that is just not true. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 700544 United States 04/28/2010 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know why Quoting: ^TrInItY^They are such a pleasure to be around those illegals [link to video.godlikeproductions.com] how many times i have seen the verysame thing on a constuction site they shit all over the building or wipe their ass and throw the paper in the garbage can instead of in the tolet |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 618285 United States 04/28/2010 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not gonna happen here in Tx. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 929927It would be nice, but it aint gonna happen. Texas is a Mexican majority state. I don't think they can pull it off here...... Not without a much larger fight. THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU JUST SAID. MEXICO CONTROLS TEXAS. THIS IS HOW FUCKIN DEMOCRACY FAILS. YOU HAVE SO MANY MEXICANS THAT BY SHEER NUMBERS, ONE OF THE BEST STATES IN THE UNION FALLS TO THE HANDS OF A FORIEGN COUNTRY., THIS COUNTRY IS OVER. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 119873 United States 04/28/2010 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It sounds good, but how does this protect the average citizen? Won't a spot-check be at the discretion of the officer? No more fourth amendment. Where are your papers! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 700544This legislation will be abused, and eventually it will come to a point where we citizens (for the "REATER good", mind you) will become accustomed to showing our papers at the drop of a dime and without protest...like good little maggots. what are uyou talking about if a cop stops me now i have to show id its called licence and regestration i have no problem with that why would i have a problem proveing i am a american citizen What are you talking about? That law allows officers to question ANYBODY they THINK might be an illegal alien...not just those they pull over. Currently, it is not lawful for an officer to randomly ask for ID unless you're operating a motor vehicle (and they have a reason to stop you, i.e. traffice violation, etc..), or you've been a witness to a crime, or have committed a crime. If you're walking down the street minding your own business and some officer randomly comes up to you and says, "show me your ID." You are not obligated to obey that command under the law. What I'm saying is, if this law is passed, what is to stop an officer from using it to stop and question whomever they damn well please for whatever reason they choose? It basically negates the 4th amendment. Get a clue buddy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 618285 United States 04/28/2010 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh we can pull it off. Just as long as Perry has the cajones to sign it. Quoting: TukoAs far as a much larger fight...Bring It! if doing the RIGHT thing for the country prevails over politics ...then this will be the first step in saving the U.S. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 618285 United States 04/28/2010 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It sounds good, but how does this protect the average citizen? Won't a spot-check be at the discretion of the officer? No more fourth amendment. Where are your papers! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 119873This legislation will be abused, and eventually it will come to a point where we citizens (for the "REATER good", mind you) will become accustomed to showing our papers at the drop of a dime and without protest...like good little maggots. what are uyou talking about if a cop stops me now i have to show id its called licence and regestration i have no problem with that why would i have a problem proveing i am a american citizen What are you talking about? That law allows officers to question ANYBODY they THINK might be an illegal alien...not just those they pull over. Currently, it is not lawful for an officer to randomly ask for ID unless you're operating a motor vehicle (and they have a reason to stop you, i.e. traffice violation, etc..), or you've been a witness to a crime, or have committed a crime. If you're walking down the street minding your own business and some officer randomly comes up to you and says, "show me your ID." You are not obligated to obey that command under the law. What I'm saying is, if this law is passed, what is to stop an officer from using it to stop and question whomever they damn well please for whatever reason they choose? It basically negates the 4th amendment. Get a clue buddy. not sure that is true. I was listening to an AZ Sheriff talking about it...he said that the cops will have to have an ALTERNATE cause for asking for ID. ..ie, traffic stop. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 618285 United States 04/28/2010 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | like i said. anyone wanting to create a great business in AZ is to start a non-profit business based on a 1800# to report illegal aliens..then a formal complaint is filed that has to be answered by the Cops... you operate on donations. and believe me, you will have MILLIONS to operate on. billboards with the 1800# and illegals will RUN LIKE HELL TO LEAVE AZ. |
Boston T. Party
User ID: 955324 United States 04/28/2010 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These are all tactics from the BHO admin to get us to start fighting amongst each other and avert our eyes from Barry's failing economic policies. Think about it. In order for the police to start enforcing immigration laws, there has to be a way for them to determine "legal" residents. That is only possible if for instance, it said so on our driver's license or better yet, only legal residents are able to get driver's licenses. I see this as another push for a National I.D. card because I don't see the states forking over the cash to re-issue new licenses. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 913496 United States 04/28/2010 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If they started deporting illegals, half the public schools would be gutted and they would have to let a lot of the teachers go. There are so many schools built and portable buildings put up to accommodate the influx...I'll bet many schools would be almost empty. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 950113And yet the schools would get the same amount of funding. The people leaving are not paying property taxes. Instead of a shithole you could have a paradise, 12 students per class, lots of extra resources, etc. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 903458 United States 04/28/2010 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not gonna happen here in Tx. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 929927It would be nice, but it aint gonna happen. Texas is a Mexican majority state. I don't think they can pull it off here...... Not without a much larger fight. The real test will be if the Arizona law is struck down by the Supreme Court. Texas and New Mexico will be watching this closely before taking any actions. Texas and New Mexico will have to follow suit out of necessity, if the SC upholds the law. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 913496 United States 04/28/2010 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These are all tactics from the BHO admin to get us to start fighting amongst each other and avert our eyes from Barry's failing economic policies. Quoting: Boston T. PartyThink about it. In order for the police to start enforcing immigration laws, there has to be a way for them to determine "legal" residents. That is only possible if for instance, it said so on our driver's license or better yet, only legal residents are able to get driver's licenses. I see this as another push for a National I.D. card because I don't see the states forking over the cash to re-issue new licenses. Whenever someone says "think about it" I get suspicious ... This problem too is better fixed at the state level. Only give drivers licenses to legal residents! Most states have this control. Some don't, Oregon for example. I got rear-ended in California by an illegal with Oregon plates. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 119873 United States 04/28/2010 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It sounds good, but how does this protect the average citizen? Won't a spot-check be at the discretion of the officer? No more fourth amendment. Where are your papers! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 618285This legislation will be abused, and eventually it will come to a point where we citizens (for the "REATER good", mind you) will become accustomed to showing our papers at the drop of a dime and without protest...like good little maggots. what are uyou talking about if a cop stops me now i have to show id its called licence and regestration i have no problem with that why would i have a problem proveing i am a american citizen What are you talking about? That law allows officers to question ANYBODY they THINK might be an illegal alien...not just those they pull over. Currently, it is not lawful for an officer to randomly ask for ID unless you're operating a motor vehicle (and they have a reason to stop you, i.e. traffice violation, etc..), or you've been a witness to a crime, or have committed a crime. If you're walking down the street minding your own business and some officer randomly comes up to you and says, "show me your ID." You are not obligated to obey that command under the law. What I'm saying is, if this law is passed, what is to stop an officer from using it to stop and question whomever they damn well please for whatever reason they choose? It basically negates the 4th amendment. Get a clue buddy. not sure that is true. I was listening to an AZ Sheriff talking about it...he said that the cops will have to have an ALTERNATE cause for asking for ID. ..ie, traffic stop. I'm just saying...we need to be careful about this kind of legislation, which could wind up screwing the American citizens out of a few more rights under the guise illegal-immigration abolition. Like I said, it sounds good, but down the road it could lead to unintended consequences...or in our government's case, absolutely intended consequences for the unsuspecting sheeple. |
Fantasia II
Koo Koo Ka Choo User ID: 839765 United States 04/28/2010 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am afraid that all those illegals in Arizona will just move to other states and not return to their homeland. Every state needs to adopt the Arizona law if we want to stop the invasion. George Orwell was right..Black is White, Up is Down, War is Peace... "Never believe anything until it has been officially denied." Yesterday is history.......Tomorrow a mystery.......Today is a gift......thats why we call it the Present!!! |