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Perhaps where we are heading is some form of “Freedom-Socialist” state
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[quote:IfYouInsist:MV80NjkxMDUzXzg1Mzc2Nzg4X0Y2N0M0NEEy] [quote:TurtleManEa:MV80NjkxMDUzXzg1Mzc2NzMzXzgyNUE0NEUx] [quote:IfYouInsist:MV80NjkxMDUzXzg1Mzc2NjkyX0U3MEY2Q0E=] [quote:TurtleManEa:MV80NjkxMDUzXzg1Mzc2NjUxXzNCQ0NFODdD] How can I notice what you choose to do with your life? You are showing that the system can work, by being lazy or active when you choose. This is sort of the basis of a “Freedom-Socialist” party. Some people are inherently lazy, but at other times they have tons of energy and want to work. We must allow both to exist in the same system. We can figure how to make it work so why not? I salute the lazy ones, for many times I also like to be lazy. Other times I work 20 hour days non-stop. Who cares? [/quote] It wasn't laziness, but you already knew that. You keep talking about a 'we' where you come up with all the ideas and do all the enforcement, and I agree to them. Not interested in the positivity you exude when faced with the prospect of your total control. Sorry. [/quote] You are free to do as you see fit. I’m not forcing anything on anyone. Our greatest problem in this country is that everyone hates the system, but they don’t have any actual ideas to head for. If we cannot come up with potential new ideas, people will just go in circles forever hating the system. Live long and prosper how you choose is best. I’m advocating a system that all people can do just that. [/quote] The part of the system people hate is the fact that it ruthlessly oppresses dissent and manufactures the same. You too participate in it, even to the point of finessing my replies to fit your narrative. There's something wrong with you to the point where conversation with you just isn't natural--natural like snow falls on the ground; artless, not artificial--and you have the same staged positivity and zeal of practically every politician that already exists. You are therefore not proposing anything new. Please stop lying, or start speaking candidly. Either way, the answer is still no. [/quote]
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Our future may be some form of “dual-state.”
Can the two exist within the same system? Usually we have two sides who try to exert both sides to live under their singular rule. Either the socialists attempt to make everyone a socialist, or the freedom-lovers try to make everyone live under a “free” state and to force people to build themselves up or “pull themselves up by their bootstraps.”
What if we could have both? What if we had a system that would take care of people that needed help, but also was completely free to not take part in that system? To me the United States is heading in this direction. We do not need to part ways to have this system come to fruition.
We do not need to have a civil war, nor do we need to build two separate countries, one of which was socialist and one of which was free. We already have examples of this in recent history. One being Germany breaking into West and East and another being Korea, breaking into North and South. Germany eventually re-united and Korea is bound to eventually re-unite one day as well.
I would encourage a “Freedom-Socialist” party to come into fruition as that seems to me to be the balance that we are looking for.
Some who are more “freedom-loving” may come into tough times and need support, thus they may become more “socialist” and some who are more socialist, might be doing well and not need the support and become more “freedom-loving.” It can be very fluid.
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