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Subject RAPTURE!! It is coming and I will be saved because I am better than you! (SARCASM) Update pg 22
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Original Message Rapture.

People who believe in a Rapture condemn themselves and others. This isn't a judgment on my part, but quite simply it is a fact as explained below.

They claim they await A SPECIAL return of Jesus Christ at which time He will whisk them away before or at mid tribulation.

Rapturists essentially place themselves on a pedestal, claiming an entitlement to glory and honor. They claim salvation is assured and reserved for them and that they are entitled to a special distinction. This literally is a refusal to acknowledge that God is the only One who has the authority to make that distinction. By way of the Rapture, they have already judged themselves worthy, prior, to the judgment that God says is to take place AFTER THE TRIBULATION. Really? REALLY!!

In so doing, they in essence are passing judgment, not only upon themselves, but also upon those who would be left behind or who might disagree with the non biblical and non scriptural Rapture theory. They magnify themselves while condemning those who "would be" left behind.

The whole basis of the Rapture THEORY is that a Rapture is going to "save" them from the coming wrath and tribulation. The problem with this, is that the desire to be "saved" is a carnal ambition. It is derived from a human emotion tied to a human body. It is not a spiritual ambition.

People who have spiritual insight realize that they don't need to be "saved". They are aware that they already are, as they are spiritually bonded to Jesus Christ. It is only the carnal mind that looks for salvation where it already exists rejecting that fact.

THAT IS WHY THE RAPTURE THEORY IS SO DANGEROUS! IT DOESN'T OFFER SALVATION, INSTEAD IT IS A DENIAL OF THE POWER AND GLORY OF GOD AND IS A DOOR TO DEATH. IT IS A GREAT DECEPTION!!


Consider the following scripture.


Romans 8
1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 5For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Control by the Spirit
(Galatians 5:16-26)

9But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Heirs with Christ
(Genesis 21:1-8; Galatians 4:1-7)

12Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. 13For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. 14For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 15For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. 16The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

Having read Romans, you can see that those who believe in the Rapture are not being led by the Spirit. For some reason, they believe that God should send His Son to save them, when in fact He didn't do so for his own Son. As believers in Christ, we are told that we too will suffer the same afflictions. We are told that as Saints, many will lose our lives for our belief and faith, even during the tribulation.

Matthew 5:10King James Version (KJV)

10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

Mark 13:13King James Version (KJV)

13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Luke 9:23-25King James Version (KJV)

23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.

24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.

25 For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away?


Philippians 1:29King James Version (KJV)

29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

Philippians 3:8-11King James Version (KJV)

8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,

9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;


11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.

People of faith need to understand this. The tribulation isn't simply a means to destroy the wicked on earth. The tribulation is a test of our faith. Anyone who believes that they can escape the tribulation denies Christ. They show they do not believe in the power of resurrection. They are looking for an easy out. Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. They are being led by carnal motivation which results in death. They want Christ to save them, rather than taking up and bearing the same cross He did. Christ wants to know that we are willing to sacrifice ourselves FOR Him as He did for us. We must be willing to face and overcome death as Christ himself did.

Rapturists who want to be saved, want to skip all of the testing of the heart of men prior to the harvest. This literally makes them tares in the wheat and they will be plucked up and burnt, because they are taking the path that leads to destruction.

Consider Christs' own words.


Luke 17
33Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.

Matthew 13
27So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? 28He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 30Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Matthew 24
26Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 27For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

AS SCRIPTURE SAYS. JESUS CHRIST COMES AFTER THE TRIBULATION, NOT DURING AND NOT BEFORE. SO WHO ARE YOU GOING TO BELIEVE? JESUS? OR SOMEONE WHO COMES BEARING A RAPTURE PHILOSOPHY THAT ISN'T BIBLICAL?

Colossians 2
8Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Psalm 91 Shows the Power and Glory of God and his ability to shelter you through adversity and yes, even the tribulation.

My Refuge and My Fortress
Psalm 91

1He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.

2I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.

3Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.

4He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.

5Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;

6Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.

7A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.

8Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.


9Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;

10There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.

11For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.

12They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.

13Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.

14Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.

15He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.

16With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.
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