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Free Will vs. Predestination (Bible Believers)
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[quote:ToyTV:MV8xODcyMTU4XzMxMjMyMDczXzc5REMwNkEy] [quote:Mr_Electric:MV8xODcyMTU4XzMxMjMxOTA1X0MyOUFBMTMx] Paul didn't contradict Christ... he was SENT by Christ. His calling was to be the Apostle to the Gentiles. God was opening salvation to ALL, not just the jewish people. This is why his message "seemed" to contradict at times. Christ mainly spoke to the lost sheep of Israel. But they rejected Him and that is when salvation came to the Gentiles and this is why God called Saul of Tarsus into action. Paul wrote much of the New Testament. It figures that in the last days that the attacks would focus FIRST on Christ, then on to Paul. Open your eyes. Christ told us beforehand these things would happen. He said that many would be "offended" by His name. I know where my faith is. I'm just ridin' the storm out..... [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3IxDrTtqYY[/youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3IxDrTtqYY [/quote] I don't reject Messiah. But you would think if Christ was planning on appointing Paul, he might have given an indication there would be a 13th apostle. To my knowledge He didn't. In fact, he warned of people coming in His name. Who knows what entity Paul ran into on the road? I don't...I wasn't there. And the only witness was....Paul. I know where my faith is too. in Yeshua...Christ...God the Father....not Paul. Who needs Paul? [/quote]
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I am curious about believers views of free will vs predestination as a salvation issue. Were some chosen and others not prior to creation?
I have always been a free will believer. But toight I got into a debate with a predestination believer.
I am curious as to others insight on the matter.
Do you believe saved people have always been saved from the beginning? Or is it a choice?
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